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Marguerite: A gentleman’s duty is to believe what a lady tells him.

Roxton: Don’t let the title fool you. I’m as far from being a gentleman as you are from being a lady.

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On the 8th of January, I began my insidious campaign to lure [livejournal.com profile] odakota_rose  down the rabbit hole into the Abyss of Brain-Eating Addiction that is The Lost World. I swamped her with LOTR-epic-length comments extolling its virtues [and excusing its faults under the rationalization commonly known as 'it's part of its charm'], links to youtube clips featuring the awesomeness that is the above ship, made pointed comments in memes#1 and #2 [mentioning no names but...it was pretty obvious, lol] and getting her to watch a music vid, knowing that Lenka would be a strong temptation to ditch this caution about not wanting to lose grip on reality by losing oneself to fandom obsession.

On the 20th of Febuary, my campaign was won. Now, my dear, since I love random fandom comments, and anything vaguely related to TLW is never unwelcome [perish the thought! Now!], I thought I'd try out a sticky post for randomness. Part of this is so you feel welcome and not worried about spamminess. So you know, feel free to just incoherently babble or analytically ponder or flat out FLAIL here any time. But of course, being devious, this is also out of my own self-interests. I like the idea of a TLW page where I can bolster myself on the peppiness and squee of ep discussion, lol. *g* >:D

 

do Marguerite and Roxton always follow each other around making eyes at each other and quippy little remarks interspersed with not so quippy and slightly cute ones? It's kinda awesome of them

It's something they can't help. There's this magnetic pull between them and they can't resist, lol. Marguerite's response is to get snippy and sarcastic but he appreciates her humor, even the morbid humor about getting eaten by cannibals and t-rexes and all that everyone else gets haughty about. God knows why, I mean, I find her hilarious but they're kinda uptight around her. *shrugs* And he's the only one that would risk being around her- 'anything that isn't worth shedding a little blood over isn't worth the getting', hee! [and OMG, how much do I love the fact that while they kissed in the first ep, it wasn't romantic and mushy?!]- while the others try to find reasons to stay away mostly, lol, so they end up together a lot.

Though Summerlee appoints himself chaperson. *frowns* God, the man even pushed himself to the cave with them, that's dedication! :D Heh, I love when they're in the cave and Roxton's all commanding, '100 yards, then we meet back here, got it?' and she just gives him this LOOK like, 'Ohh, you think you're the boss of me, that's so cuuute.' I mean, her expression is all kinds of resigned patience and amusement, lol. That archness of hers in response is just...GUH. And he totally wants to grab her by the shoulders and shake her silly.

Um, where was I? Uh...yeah, she gives into the 'must banter playfully' instinct which wrestles with 'must protect self' instinct so Roxton's faced with these different Marguerites and in the first season, he steps in it a lot when he can't distinguish which moments to pursue his campaign for her. I mean, in this ep, after the whole breaking down in his arms thing, Roxton goes after her to try and help soothe her, be all, 'if you ever want to talk about it', because he doesn't know her well enough yet to realize that she's going to slam down her walls and freeze him out, 'I won't.' I feel so bad for him because it must be bewildering not to know what's going on with her and why she'll seek him out for comfort one moment and repel him the next. [I'm thinking of doing 'Bitch' for a music video, it fits her, lol... 'you're so good to me, I know but I can't change, tried to tell you but you look at me like maybe I'm an angel underneath...yesterday I cried, you must've been relieved to see the softer side...' Damn, I really want to do it now- must hunt down that song]

After Blood Lust, there are quite a few eps where they aren't together, which is irritating- have you seen that ep, btw? I'm torn between YaY and GRR- but it gets back on track with a few more M + R exploring/getting into mischief eps which I adore. I don't mind Ned and Veronica and the others but I like them in the background. Just to know they're around, you know? Have a few 'family bonding' moments, and then back to my ship, lol. I'm so greedy, but this show, it keeps providing.

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Date: 2009-02-27 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] odakota-rose.livejournal.com

You win.

PS. Another parallel to D/V, y/y? The kissing in the first ep bit, that is, and especially that it's not all sweet.

The fact that she thinks he's ridiculous for all this macho protective stuff and that entire scene really, just cracks me up.

Roxton goes after her to try and help soothe her, be all, 'if you ever want to talk about it', because he doesn't know her well enough yet to realize that she's going to slam down her walls and freeze him out, 'I won't.'

Yes, see that's what I'm finding interesting right now, the fact that in general guys are the once who are all, let's not talk and in this case it's slightly flip flopped (at least right now anyways)

I'm 99% certain I have Bitch somewhere on my computer, so I'm gonna run and see if I can find it and upload it for you because this video truly must happen, and sometime soon plz.

I haven't seen it yet, no. I haven't had much time at all the past couple of days because of this stupid real life thing. Yeah. *sporks it*
But I'm working on getting there, lol.

It's like the Roxton/Marguerite show with a few other moments because there are other people being payed to act for the show.

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Date: 2009-02-28 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borg-princess.livejournal.com
Why, thank you, thank you. *bows* :D

OMG. I can't believe I didn't even consider the D/V parallels. *facepalm* I have to rewatch Prometheus Unbound again. It's my favorite ep for that whole season! *bounces* I wonder who made it super duper special? :D I pity the fools that didn't grasp how cool she is, and how she improved the show a million times over.

But yah, their kiss! I love Daniel's humor, I just adore how he becomes this witty, capable, confident, cool dude, rather than the geeky, gawky, bumbling archeologist he started out life as. And then I watched Farscape and I loved this scene even more because of its lighthearted J/A parallels!

Yes, see that's what I'm finding interesting right now, the fact that in general guys are the once who are all, let's not talk and in this case it's slightly flip flopped (at least right now anyways)

*frowns* You're right. Weird. I never really thought about it, that's just how it was, but I like it! And really, it never could be any other way between them, with Marguerite and her secrets, he had to be willing to open up to her and expose himself if they were ever going to get anywhere with each other. He starts off assuming she's just another woman, just another trophy, and then realizes there's more to her and he's reluctantly, tantalizingly hooked.

this video truly must happen, and sometime soon plz.

Yikes! Pressure! *hides* Um, how 'bout by Christmas? :P

this stupid real life thing. Yeah. *sporks it*

Tonsils? Y/N? Well, whatever it is... *waves arms dramatically* RL suckitude BE GONE! ;P Hope it's resolved soon. *huggles*

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Date: 2009-02-27 08:12 am (UTC)
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Uhh, foreshadowing much? Marguerite can read stuff there on the walls but doesn't know how? Either something wacky is going on or there is foreshadowing happening.

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Date: 2009-02-28 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borg-princess.livejournal.com
Yah, see, I don't know when they figured out where they were going with Marguerite's Chosen One status, [I don't think the Morrighan thing was determined til later] but this ability of hers is definitely intended as vague foreshadowing for something.

Some people have explained it in fics as a result of her eduction or whatever, but come on, seriously- deciphering languages that haven't existed in centuries, that she's never seen before? Give it up. That's some mystical ability going down, 'k? I don't buy the 'rational explanations' for this one. I just wish she got to do moooorrre. *pouts*

Stuff happens in ep 20 or 21, Prophecy [it's not a mythology ep, though, ignore the title] that I choose to construe in a way that favors the theory of her talents coming to the surface but it's very very VERY vague and 9/10 wishful thinking.

My fandom blinkers aside, that is one of my favorite eps this season. In general, there are two important types of M/R scenes I go for- the cute lighthearted bicker/banter and the raw, serious, emotions-to-the-fore moments. This ep kills me with the latter.

Heh. Am I ruining your 'chronological order' resolution? :P

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Date: 2009-03-04 12:57 am (UTC)
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Okay, the reply width was reduced to a scant few millimeters on the other page so I moved it on over here...

I saw the borgprincess a couple days ago when I tagged you wrong or something. I have this thing about checking people's lj-names.

Oh, must've been for that 'make my day' thing? 'coz, yeah, I was checking people's names and a good thing too, because I accidentally mistyped one...*facepalm*

I am seriously still beating myself up about borgprincess- I didn't realize it was me for the longest time...I even pm'ed 'her' at one stage just for the hell of it...and then one day, I logged into that account by accident and it hit me...'Gee, how did I log into some random person's account using MY password? And isn't it funny how we have almost the same username? And a few similar interests... oh...wait...' *lightbulb moment*

When we mention the things we let these guys get away with because of their significantly awesome significant others, are we referring to Bill Adama and that mustache?

The pimp!stache...oh dear...I had so much hate for it, but then I thought about Roslin pining away for him, and his crazy ass suicidal plan to rescue her, and everyone else by extension...and I told myself to get over it. Thank god it left when she returned, though.

Well, I dunno. You wanna be Bugs Bunny?

Okay, I don't know if I'm on crack, but I think there was a CM fic discussing cartoons and they were profiling him as this narcissist and just saying really disturbing things about a classic childhood favorite, you know?

But in googling him, I came across this, 'Bugs Bunny has some similarities to figures from mythology and folklore, such as Br'er Rabbit, Nanabozho, or Anansi, and might be seen as a modern trickster...Unlike most cartoon characters, however, Bugs Bunny is rarely defeated in his own games of trickery.' That last appeals to me. :D I'm really warming to it now, lol. I don't care about realism, I would like to be undefeated and invincible in my scheming. >:P

It wouldn't hurt Roxton quite as much if it were some random person on the street, I dont think.
But because it's her, and he IS 'rolling the dice' on her as a person... Ouch.


Wow. You know, I hadn't really thought about it in those terms. *huggles*

See, I was thinking he'd be sensitive because they just went through the Cave of Fear and it's resurfaced in his mind and like a fresh wound all over again, and then she pokes at it and makes it worse. And of course, as you say, he was just defending her from Malone and then she doesn't thank him or pay any heed to his warning? I'd want to shake her for that.

But you just reminded me of that riverbank scene, when he was saying, 'I've already done what I'll be remembered for'- I didn't give it much thought before, but now I think he was referring to the accident, and while obviously anyone would find it tragic to think about, it wasn't...it didn't elicit this huge emotional response from him at that time. Like, 'people think crap about me, well, I just have to deal'. It's later when MARGUERITE throws it in his face that he just can't even be around her anymore.

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Date: 2009-03-04 12:59 am (UTC)
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Marguerite's got abandonement issues, and all the world has done is try and screw her. So much like Vala, she's turned around and tried to screw it back.
Now she's building tentative relationships with these people, but some of them choose not to examine the conflict between what she says and what she does. From what I'm seeing, she cares a whole lot more than most people choose to see and a whole lot more than she says.


*dies* Your entire analysis was made of win, but this in particular, I love. Articulate, much? *squishes*

In a way, she may see it as an advantage if they underestimate her compassion and caring because then she becomes an unknown quantity- they can't plan out what she's going to do in a given situation.

DUDE. In one comment, you've helped me make peace with something that's been bugging me forever! I love her so much that I want her to get recognition, but...I mean, she finds dealing with Roxton and his expectations and efforts to break through her walls tough enough, and how much more overwhelming would it be if everyone else was like that, too? I thought they weren't ready to forgive and alter their misconceptions of her, but...*facepalm*...I didn't think that maybe SHE wasn't ready for that either. If they all assumed she was this wonderful, altruistic, saintly person and expected her to act like it, that'd probably send her fleeing for dear life from the treehouse. But them misjudging her...suits her a whole lot better. Huh. I don't know why I had to be blind to this until you enlightened me, but better late than never!

And she can swoop in and save their butts when they don't have any idea what she's going to do and have cooked up some monumentally stupid idea that doesn't work out.

OMG, More Than Human. Everyone acts like she was betraying them but she had the only sensible idea of the lot! And Roxton was just... *thwacks him* He has a brain, but he doesn't engage it sometimes!

This marathon we've gotta have, I'm gonna bring a couple pots of Nutella to munch on

Mmm, the chocolate spread? I used to eat it out of the jar when I was a kid, but it was a rare, rare luxury. Netty gets chocolate icing from Safeway sometimes and we get a biiig spoonful and nibble at it for a while. It's so rich, it lasts for ages because you can't gobble it all at once!

Remember that meme you did with the 'something you want to tell someone right now' question?

Lol, yes, I referenced it on this post along with all my other tactics for browbeating you into TLW. :D I was getting a little desperate by the time the meme happened...it was like, 'screw subtlety'! :P

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Date: 2009-03-09 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borg-princess.livejournal.com
Recs, you want? Recs, you shall have. I'm not sure if I can link them all, but I'll try. This is in alphabetical order, so don't assign any importance to the listing, 'k? I generally only linked authors, but if some of their fics sucked, I linked the one/s I liked.

beckers (http://hunterbard.tripod.com/MRFiction/MRFictionx.html)
- Christmas Pudding
- Decline
- Nightmare
- Memory

Some of her fics are really dark and I just can't stand even thinking about them because it hurts, but yeah. Great writer.

California Gal (http://www.fanfiction.net/u/43000/California_gal)
- a voice on the wind
- a wicked magic
- ambush
- the icy kingdom

Devil May Care (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/733890/1/Devil_May_Care)

Dinodachsies (http://www.fanfiction.net/u/340258/dinodachsies)
- death be not so annoying
- mistletoe
- the stillness

edenTLW (http://www.fanfiction.net/u/870207/EdenTLW)
- midnight confessions
- opportunities

Father, Where Art Thou? (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/750804/1/Father_Where_art_thou)

It's not finished, sadly, but what's there is just so wonderful and interesting, I'm reccing it anyway.

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Rann's site (http://home.att.net/~rannalso/index.htm) has a lot of good stories. In particular:

Rann:
- double play
- happily ever aftering
- making sense of the senseless
- requiring some resolve of her own
- resolutely looking the other way
- retrenching
- the guest
- the night of november the 19th
- trading
- tying off the threads

santacrux
Touche (http://home.att.net/~rannalso/Touche.htm)

Following Roxton (http://home.att.net/~rannalso/FollowingRoxton.htm)

But not forgotten (http://home.att.net/~rannalso/Forgotten1.htm)

Lisa Paris is the most awesome author, I love her fics so much.

The Silver Link (http://home.att.net/~rannalso/SilverLink1.htm)

A Most Adorable Man (http://home.att.net/~rannalso/AMostAdorableMan.htm)

Shadow of a Dream (http://home.att.net/~rannalso/Shadow1.htm)

Just a Song at Twilight (http://home.att.net/~rannalso/Twilight1.htm)

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Lady Primrose Roxton (http://www.fanfiction.net/u/217771/Lady_Primrose_Roxton)

- Concourse

liz4 (http://www.fanfiction.net/u/77188/Liz4)
- confessions
- desire
- garden of eden
- nothing else matters
- tensions
- the female of the species
- the lady of the lake
- the most dangerous game

Monica Rowe
dark shadows (http://web.archive.org/web/20060825060325/www.tlwfix.com/Pages/tlw_fanfiction_stories_darkshadows.html)

Friends in Need (http://web.archive.org/web/20040726104539/www.tlwfix.com/Pages/tlw_fanfiction_stories_friendsinneed.html)

Pam, another author I love.

One of her better days (http://www.dnashionalarchive.com/lostworld/betterdays.html)

Sharing the Night Watches (http://web.archive.org/web/20050523133733/www.tlwfix.com/Pages/tlw_fanfiction_stories_sharingthenightwatches.html)

Blood Lust: the dream she had before (http://web.archive.org/web/20050523132908/www.tlwfix.com/Pages/tlw_fanfiction_stories_bloodlustthedreamshehadbefore.html)

This is my personal canon- it fixes that Blood Lust thing that's been bugging me.

A Lucky Day (http://web.archive.org/web/20050523125121/www.tlwfix.com/Pages/tlw_fanfiction_stories_aluckyday.html)

Susan Zell, another phenomenal writer. (http://www.fanfiction.net/u/34541/Susan_Zell)
- a civilized cloak
- a close shave
- nothing she can't fix
- reasons why
- restless
- survival of the fittest
- the gauntlet
- the long day
- the mire
- wendigo

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Date: 2009-03-09 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borg-princess.livejournal.com
Recs cont'd. :D

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zakiyah and dnash (http://www.fanfiction.net/u/263128/Zakiyah_and_DNash)
- laundry day
- bad weather

Their site:
The dnashional archive (http://www.dnashionalarchive.com/lostworld/tlw.html)
- little things
- memento mori
- nonnaversary
- ricochets
- scars
- surface tension [a beautiful Marguerite/Veronica friendship fic]
- window of opportunity

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Roguie (http://www.fanfiction.net/u/99111/Roguie)
-The Wheel (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1013712/1/The_Wheel)


Jaclyn (http://www.fanfiction.net/u/14524/Jaclyn)
- To Hold (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1006304/1/To_Hold)

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A few more recs:

No Need For Words (http://web.archive.org/web/20060825060349/www.tlwfix.com/Pages/tlw_fanfiction_stories_noneedforwords2.html)

Patrice:
Brightest Truth (http://web.archive.org/web/20070510074909/www.tlwfix.com/Pages/tlw_fanfiction_stories_brightesttruth.html)

Imago (http://web.archive.org/web/20041010045009/www.tlwfix.com/Pages/tlw_fanfiction_stories_imago.html)

Nothing of Reason (http://web.archive.org/web/20040205175234/www.tlwfix.com/Pages/tlw_fanfiction_stories_nothingofreasonP1.html)

There was this other Pam fic I wanted to link, but the TLWFIX redux site is unpredictable. The story was up yesterday and now it's dead again. :[

And it's up again-here it is! (http://web.archive.org/web/20041010074813/www.tlwfix.com/Pages/tlw_fanfiction_stories_missing.html) Save it quick!

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I think a big part of why I adore Marguerite as much as I do is that she's sooooo ahead for her time. She speaks her mind, independent, intelligent, self-sufficent, all traits that most people would attribute to men during that period, but yet, as tough as she is, she does have her feminine moments. She's an excellent shakeup for the crew I think, and especially for Roxton, jaded and carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders and all. Their banter is what gets me going.

Some may like Ned/Veronica, and they're okay. But they lack a certain... fire (read: witty banter and sexual chemistry) to keep me entertained.

I just love how nobody can escape their past, even in... (wait for it) THE LOST WORLD XDXDXD

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she's sooooo ahead for her time. She speaks her mind, independent, intelligent, self-sufficent, all traits that most people would attribute to men during that period

*nodnod* ITA. She doesn't give a damn, she is who she is and she won't compromise on that for 'propriety' or abide by social restrictions for 'mere females'. I love how in Nectar, Challenger goes, 'Where I come from, women are not so bold' and she laughs *squees* and replies, 'How dull for you'. It doesn't matter to her, she won't be shamed or change her nature to suit the values of the time. I love it.

tough as she is, she does have her feminine moments.

See, what gets me is that being 'strong' sometimes equates to 'losing one's femininity' in women. It really pissed me off in Voyager how as soon as Seven joined the crew, Janeway stopped wearing these sexy peach nightgowns and began wearing these matronly boring grey neck-to-toe gowns. Blech. Once they get the sexpot on the crew, Janeway stopped being 'feminine' for some reason and that was so irritating.

She's an excellent shakeup for the crew I think, and especially for Roxton, jaded and carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders and all. Their banter is what gets me going.

The banter is the heart of TLW, methinks. :D I wouldn't obsess over this show were it not for their banter.

She helps him not take himself so seriously. I mean, the first two eps, he's so arrogant and cocky and she just pokes him full of holes, lol, it's AWESOME. She does that with everyone, actually. Poor Malone and his journals, hee. >:D That scene in Salvation gets me because she is all over the map. Giggly and adorable and mischievous one moment, reckless and uncaring and damn near demonic the next as she rips out his pages. 'Maybe I didn't make myself CLEAR'- I mean, she flipped from easygoing to scary in a heartbeat. Whoaaaa. I wish Roxton hadn't been around because I'd've loved to see her and Malone in a showdown, heh.

Some may like Ned/Veronica, and they're okay. But they lack a certain... fire (read: witty banter and sexual chemistry) to keep me entertained.

They're like high school kids on the playground, you know? Cute and I wanna just pinch their cheeks and coo, but they're not as epic and awe-inspiring as M/R, that's for sure.

I just love how nobody can escape their past, even in... (wait for it) THE LOST WORLD XDXDXD

*squishes* :D Those credits are hilarious. I kinda *headdesk* every time, [especially since they inspired this irritating trend in fics to be all 'the heiress this'/ 'the hunter that'/ 'the lord', blah blah blah] but I do the deep male intonation, I can't help it, when I say THE LOST WORLD. :P

/rambling. Yah, I have this tendency to go ooooon and ooooon. ^_^

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Date: 2009-03-24 01:32 am (UTC)
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You know, we should probably stop spamming odakota_rose and take this to one of our lj's instead XDXDXD

Hee, I was feeling a bit guilty about that. I have this thing with boundaries, though, when fandom fever takes hold of me, I don't really respect 'em. :P

the inconsistencies with Marguerite's character. She's supposed to be this super spy, but she trips every two seconds when running away

It irritates me how often she needs to be rescued by Roxton. I mean, romantic, yes, but it offends my notions of how kick-ass Marguerite is. To their credit, Marguerite shows herself to be quick-witted when it comes to thinking on her feet and coming up with smart plans on the fly, but...super spy, hello? You think she'd be a little more adept when it comes to the physical stuff.

One thing [I keep saying that, lol, it's a lot of things by this stage!] that gets me is how Marguerite seems to lack self-preservation in dangerous situations when Roxton is hurt. I mean, FFS, eliminate the enemy, secure the situation first before running to his side and holding him and waiting for the bad guys to come and beat you up. *eyeroll*

I just don't believe that realistically, Marguerite would abandon her composure and lose her cool and calm and just flail over Roxton instead of dealing with the problem first, you know? It baffles me, considering her upbringing, her lifestyle, her former occupation [how did she end up as a spy anyway?!].

There's this Elizabeth icon with the caption 'cooler than I'm written'- I think 'smarter than I'm written' might be appropriate here.

(admittedly, her wardrobe doesn't exactly lend itself to sprightly jungle running but FRINGED SUEDE KNEE-HIGHs SHOES DO).

I wish someone more adept with photoshop than I am could manufacture a new wardrobe for Marguerite.

Although in canon...

Image

*smirks* I really really loved her wardrobe in Amazons. :D

Veronica, by contrast, since having grown up in a jungle where she's been forced to use her survival skills (as opposed to Marguerite with being a triple spy and having enemies who would do worse than kill her at every turn), is pretty much flawless and incapable of making any mistakes. W.T.F.

*snorts* Veronica, the jungle girl with ONE FRAKKING KNIFE, as compared to Marguerite, armed with guns, trained in the urban jungle with enemies stalking her around every corner...yes, I can see how blondie is superior. O.o

The Plateau is bloody dangerous, yes, but dinosaurs and so on don't have an agenda, they don't have grudges or anything. Marguerite had to survive knowing there were people on her trail, who'd knife her or shoot her or torture her, and that breeds a hardier type of person. While the writers succeed in portraying her as such when dealing with the others- how long does it take Roxton to wear her down? Lol- they don't succeed in showing that side of her in combat. *frowns*

I love how even Summerlee's more of a crackshot than she is (and I like Summerlee too, not to pick at the old man).

I KNOW. I KNOW. IT HURTS. I adore Summerlee but come on, how much training does he have with guns?! And he outshoots her?! Like when he shot that trail of gunpowder in Creatures of the Dark, or those baddies in BatG. *headdesk*

Speaking of self-pimpage, I've done a few attempts at TLW ficcage that I will never post anywhere else but on my writing lj.

>:D Brb, off to stalk your fics...

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Date: 2009-03-27 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] odakota-rose.livejournal.com
In Skin Deep, they have a Geiger counter.
It bothers me, alright? There was a prototype of that in 1908 or 1909 I think, but it didn't really exist as we know it until 1928. It's small, and theoretically not even a problem, but still! Gah.

ALSO! It's like an episode of the X-files, omg. *giggles* People turning into goo! Green cocoons that they have to be broken out of!

The zombie skeletons with NINJA!SKILLZ part I could've done without though. I giggled too much.

Roxton: The next time anyone suggests a picnic, let's have it at the tree house.
Skeletons: *rise and are creepy*
Marguerite: Allow me, boys, it's the least I can do *shoots raptor free/is generally awesome*
Raptor: *attacks skeletons- OM NOM NOM NOM*
Group: *flees*
Cave: *explodes*
All: *duck*


The ending was priceless though. Challenger and Ned and Veronica need to tease them more often. ♥

Ned: If you weren't too busy holding hands with Roxton [he bats his eyelashes and singsongs this, and I crack up.]

Because hey, earlier in the episode it was Saint not!Marguerite, and it was definitely worrisome. Admittedly, I thought she was drugged or somesuch, lol.

PS. I was in Fry's yesterday and they have ALL THREE SEASONS in stock! There was nearly instore happy dancing. I was going to buy them then but I'm waiting until I get my paycheck tomorrow, and then hopefully I can go with my grandmother and pick them up. [My parents are frakking nosy. I do not wish to explain to them because I don't think they'd get it anyways. It's bad enough that I had to move everything onto flash drives this week because my dad wants access to my computer to do some updates on it *roar*]


PPS. London Calling. Because even Ned ships them in his head.

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Date: 2009-03-27 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borg-princess.livejournal.com
*GLOMPS*
OMG HAI! ♥
I really need to see a shrink. I don't see you [well, 'see' you] for a day] and I get jittery. *eyeroll* Dependency issues, gah.

Hee, it is so cool that you know facts about the Geiger counter, which I'd never heard of before this ep- I was just like, 'hey, random scientific device, okay then', I'm going with it and you're like, 'I CALL FOUL!'

Challenger has a habit of 'inventing' devices before historically reported- but it's plausible, I mean, they're stuck on the Plateau, any scientific breakthroughs he makes aren't going to be reported in our history, right?

Though I admit, I developed a blase attitude toward such blatant chronology violations with Xena. I mean, she met Mary and Joseph, Caesar, Boedecia and other famous people from different centuries, so... *shrugs*

ALSO! It's like an episode of the X-files, omg. *giggles*

Bwahaha, I was totally ROTFLMAO at the X-files deja vu. It happens so often in this show. Marguerite in that cocoon = Scully in the first X-files movie, except not naked and covered in gunk and requiring romantic CPR [as distinct from purely neutral un-romantic CPR from non-love interests]

The zombie skeletons with NINJA!SKILLZ part I could've done without though. I giggled too much.

IKR?! *headdesk* It's hysterical. *wipes away tears* Ah, show. Your crack is too powerful.

And that reminds me of the season 7 X-files ep with the skeleton...I need to rewatch that, it was so cute.

But omg, I hated this ep the first time I saw it because once the skeleton burst out of Marguerite, I was like, 'NO. FRAKKING. WAY. Obviously she returns, healthy and whole, but I'm not going to buy any BS explanation for how they reintegrate her' and then the writers neatly sidestepped that issue by revealing it was a duplicate. I was impressed. *nodnod*

I am pissed by the way saint not!Marguerite temporarily died. It seems only Veronica can swing on vines in this show. What, does one need a degree to figure it out?

it was Saint not!Marguerite, and it was definitely worrisome. Admittedly, I thought she was drugged or somesuch, lol.

I love that Marguerite is seemingly 'possessed' but instead of being creepy and evil as in most shows where characters are not!themselves, it makes her calm and sweet-tempered and considerate and caring and brings out this home-making domestic side I never expected.

And actually...hey, why can she cook but not the real Marguerite? What's with that?! They copied her brain and if she can't cook, why can- oh, wait, I'm expecting TLW to make sense? *headslaps self*

Marguerite: Don’t be silly I’m as healthy and happy as ever.
Roxton: Like never before?

HEEHEEHEE! :D

It's kinda sad that the pseudo!Roxton is actually so much sweeter and charming than the real Roxton for the first part of season 2. *eyeroll* The clone romance is something I can definitely support. :D

I don't get why the clones would be so different from the real individuals they duplicated but we got some fun fun scenes out of this plot contrivance and that's all I ask, logic be damned!

Marguerite: Allow me, boys, it's the least I can do *shoots raptor free/is generally awesome*

*bows before Marguerite* Finally, the writers accept her awesomeness again! I have been screaming at the screen so much because omfg, it's like they forgot she's a crack shot with a gun. Why do they keep making her miss her targets?! [It was ridiculous and irritating in Amazons, with the cannibals, she kept hitting trees, ugh!]

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Group: *flees*
Cave: *explodes*
All: *duck*


That scene makes me giggle. The explosion's gonna happen any second, it's like, TAKE COVER! And Roxton? Pulls down his hat a little, all, 'The hat is all the cover I need! It has magic powers, yo!'

Ned: If you weren't too busy holding hands with Roxton [he bats his eyelashes and singsongs this, and I crack up.]

NED, ILU! BROTHER/SISTER TEASING FTW!

I love my ship, okay, I'd never sacrifice their scenes for anything but I am wistful at the need for more scenes like this because HEE! Marguerite mocks him all the time and it's awesome that two eps in a row, he makes her sputter and fume as he ribs her about Roxton.

PS. Omg, the dvds were just SITTING THERE? HOW ARE YOU SO LUCKY?! I can't believe you didn't even have to order them!

Lol, yes, generally the less parents know the better. [Though I hope your parents never see this comment, they'll never trust any of your online friends, ha]

And ohnoes, I hope your computer access is restored soon, I can just imagine the separation anxiety. *roars with you*

PPS. London Calling breaks my heart a little. That shippy scene where he tells her that she's the object of value he's returning with and she pushes him away...*sighs* It's so realistic and it hurts me.

Though I was LMAO because the most hilarious and unrealistic part of that scene was Ned nearly walking in, making this 'ohhh, crap, intimate moment, backing away sloooowly now' because it was cute and also, the one time that Momentus Interruptus does not occur in this show is during a dream of Ned's...what does that say?! Frustrated shipper, lol. I have so much more love for him now.

Just randomly, I feel so bad for pseudo!Marguerite when she realizes she's lost her gems on the beach. I mean, I KNOW it's not her, but still. And she is incredibly beautiful at that moment. Okay, she's always beautiful, but drenched and disheveled, it is still so evident. And yay for more dressing up! I so enjoy dress up scenes...

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Date: 2009-03-27 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nomad9158.livejournal.com
hi it's elizabeth from the lady roxton cummunity. I hope you don't mind, I added you. ur journal is cool. im also a fan of star trek

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Date: 2009-03-27 10:59 am (UTC)
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Hey, Elizabeth, nice to see you over here. Welcome to my journal of fangirl ramblings, lol. *squishes*

im also a fan of star trek

Lol, so you figured out where my username is from? It's fairly obvious, I can't place yours, though...

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Date: 2009-03-30 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-tenshi24.livejournal.com
Well, not that I'm biased or anything but I'm voting for TLW. :P The fun light-hearted series. I took a look at the other one but it depressed me. *woes* The writing is good, of course, but the premise breaks my heart a little- wait, actually, I should probably be making this comment over there. I'll get to it eventually. You have no idea how many authors are on my list of 'People to Review'. It's a long list. *iz ashamed*

Starting over cos' I'm running out of space XDXDXD

LOL yes, I like writing depressing fics for all of five minutes. Really. I'll give you a hint though. I like happy endings. I just like making the couple of the story WORK for it... hehehe. XD

I actually have a few epics that are overdue... sadly overdue... not in TLW fandom unfortunately XD

Also, I may have some good news, or not-so-good news, depending on your point of view. I found one of my shorter fics on TLW that I'd never posted, and it's mostly done XD So take a peek at it on my writing lj! Hope you like! *HIDES*

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Date: 2009-03-30 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borg-princess.livejournal.com
Yah, my stupid journal does that- I have to go to 'link' to reply for a lot of the longer discussions. *eyeroll* Such a pain. I keep this layout simply out of a lack of options.

OH, GOOD. Happy endings are my crack. It is very relevant to my interests.

Bwahaha, I have to say I prefer your fic with angst knowing it'll lead to an eventually happy resolution rather than some fics where it's like, 'OMG HAI, ROXTON, I HAZ THIS BLINDING EPIFANY THAT I WUUUUV YOU, LET'S GET MARRIED AND HAVE BABIEZ!' And I'm like, O.o Do you know who these characters are? Seriously? GTFO of my fandom. *waves rifle for dramatic emphasis*

OMG. You're kidding. You better not be kidding. *runs*

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*points* This? It's kind of blah, imo. Any caps you'd like to suggest? I keep drawing a blank as to what to use, so it ended up being kind of an ironic type icon.
"Hai, this is Saint Marguerite, she has a big gun and will not hesitate to shoot you, especially if you mess with Roxton."

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Date: 2009-04-06 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borg-princess.livejournal.com
Ha, ironic, much? Trust you to go down that path! Neat idea, if TOTALLY not what I was envisioning! Gah, I can't place this pic, it's bugging me now...Nectar? IDK...I'm betting first season, that blouse still looks like it's buttoned all the way up, lol. Seriously, I get a kick out of how demure she looks in season one!

As for suggestions...how about a subtler irony? I love when Marguerite's all smiles and bubbly cheerfulness to mask some mischief. So, Paradise Lost Found? When she's all dressed up in that lovely red outfit and bolting out of the tent after disposing of Kirrin, then has to make small talk with one of the women? It's about 34 minutes in, she looks gorgeous, her hair is curling marvellously and that expression/outfit suit the phrase, lol, while the actual situation is in amusing counterpoint to the message.

Speaking of Marguerite being cold-blooded and deadly, do you think she actually sold Veronica in the first ep? I always thought she did, but sunkrux disagrees (http://sunkrux.livejournal.com/312095.html?thread=935967#t935967). What's your perspective?

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Date: 2009-04-10 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladynomad915.livejournal.com
hi it's elizabeth we met at the ladyroxton community. my journal was read by my roommmate so i got a new one . so im no longer nomad9158. I added you

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Date: 2009-04-27 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] illicit-designs.livejournal.com
Hellooooo!

Do you want to be friends?! I worship Torri like crazy and I am searching for more Torri friends!
Can I add you?!

Hugs
Isabel

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Date: 2009-04-27 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borg-princess.livejournal.com
Hollaaaaaa! :P

Sure, lol, the more Torri friends, the better! We can never squee too much!

*squishes*

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Date: 2009-05-19 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunkrux.livejournal.com
How's this for random TLWness?
It's an interview from the old New Line TLW site with Rachel & Jennifer.



This makes me happy. Rachel cracks me up. :D

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Date: 2009-05-20 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borg-princess.livejournal.com
The 'old New Line' site, heh.
This interview is just priceless, did they have any more?! It's such a treat seeing these two together and playing off that ol' 'we hate each other' cattiness, lol. Not looking each other in the eye, fake sweetness in their voices...'the only thing we've agreed on'/ 'yeah, probably'. *snickers*

I love when Rachel just shifts over and takes all the room and just lounges on Jen like she's furniture, not worthy of her attention, lol. Thanks for spamming! *glomps*

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Date: 2009-06-03 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurandbillever.livejournal.com
by the way, I like that top.... ^_^

*goes back to studying*

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Date: 2009-06-03 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borg-princess.livejournal.com
Heh, thanks! I love Marguerite and Roxton, they're adorable!

Good luck studying! *huggles*

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Date: 2009-07-23 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaliweir.livejournal.com
HAPPY BIRTHDAAAAAAAAAY !

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Date: 2009-07-27 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borg-princess.livejournal.com
:D THAAAANK YOOOUUU! *squishes*

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Date: 2009-08-17 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] odakota-rose.livejournal.com
OKAY THEN.
Two things. I know we must've talked about them at some point, but humor me, I'm looking for recs xD

In The Travelers, how does Marguerite go from being mostly drowned and flat out on the ground soaking wet, to shooting the immortal dude before he can shoot Roxton, and being miraculously half dry by then?
Do they have Plateau Miracle-Dry or something? Perhaps handy dandy drowning pools complete with blowdryers, since obviously if you're going to be alive forever, you might as well have nice hair?
And is there post-ep fic dealing with this? I would think there might be some residual trauma from being drowned. Also, I thought it was kinda interesting how Marguerite practically fell into him. Yes, they do that a lot, but it felt a little different that time. Also, the banter. And the 'secret'. *giddy giggle* It never gets old! Every time I think I've figured out why this is so awesome, I find something else. This show literally never gets old!

Now in Eye For an Eye, what Marguerite said, obviously. And while she's closer to admitting it, still not quite ready to admit it to Roxton while he's completely himself yet, though serious progress. It's always interesting how she seems to weave a lot of herself and her real feelings into lies, or even just talking through a situation to stall long enough so they can all stay alive. But WHYYYY OH WHY is Roxton up and about as if everything is fine, with no explanation as to why or how? That's been nagging at me for a while. Even if the return of the other part of himself healed the gunshot that he'd gotten while apart, he should still at least have the wound on his arm from the dino bone.

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Date: 2009-09-02 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borg-princess.livejournal.com
OHAI THAR, UNREPLIED COMMENT FROM A MONTH AGO. *facepalm*

'k, you make excellent points as usual but this is the part where I trot out my 'one excuse fits all occasions' line of 'it's TLW- logic and reason is a bonus, not a given!' :P

I love Travelers but that penultimate scene is just so irritating- Marguerite's lying there NOT BREATHING and Roxton wants to sword fight with the immortal dude. Riiiight. Screwed up priorities, much? Men. *snorts* I must say I really dislike his notions of honor and chivalry- if the baddie has a sword and you have a gun, YOU SHOOT HIM UP. None of this 'level playing field' crap, FFS.

Do they have Plateau Miracle-Dry or something? Perhaps handy dandy drowning pools complete with blowdryers, since obviously if you're going to be alive forever, you might as well have nice hair?

*dies laughing* OMG. AHAHAAAA.
I don't know about that- Locke wasn't all that concerned with his own grooming, his passion was more his clothes. I think it's more likely there was a dryer in that temple for Marguerite to quickly spin-dry her outfit before rejoining the rest of the gang.

On the hair note, though- Marguerite has the prettiest hair on the show, whether she's nice and dry or wet and bedraggled. Seriously, how hard did she rock the 'drowned rat' look in London Calling'?

Sadly, I don't recall any post-ep fic offhand for this. Hmph. I do love the lhug- it's probably one of my favorite hugs [next to the one in Endgame where he twirls her, squee!] because she's so fierce and promising lethal retribution one moment and then fragile and hurling herself into his arms the next. D'aww!

I really really hate that she lost her treasure, though. I'm telling myself she still has that pirate's chest buried somewhere, otherwise the unfairness of it will eat at me. Gah!

WHYYYY OH WHY is Roxton up and about as if everything is fine, with no explanation as to why or how?

But- but he's still wounded, isn't he? Wasn't he, like, staggering and such? [To indicate the lingering effects of the bullet in his leg? And btw, may I say that I HATE HATE HATE the way he got shot? Yes, charging blindly at the guy, roaring madly is going to solve EVERYTHING]

Maybe Will is just a worse actor than you give him credit for, lol, because I seem to remember that he was still injured and Marguerite was concerned and irritated at his stupid macho need to prove himself capable of moving under his own steam.

he should still at least have the wound on his arm from the dino bone

*coughs* Do I need my 'logic and reason is a bonus...' speech again? Lol. I don't know- maybe the makeup department dropped the ball here, or we can say that Oseena was pleased by his actions and healed him or something. *shrugs* Another mystery of the Plateau, yo.

ETA. The thing with Marguerite admitting her feelings? Yes, awesome moment, but very awkwardly scripted. I really cringed at the bit about 'touch my hair- can you feel the warmth? The love?' WTF? She was desperate and it was showing, but that was just sooo off to me.

But yeah, gotta love Marguerite knowing that the best lie incorporates most of a truth, very sneaky!
Edited Date: 2009-09-02 11:07 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2009-09-25 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] odakota-rose.livejournal.com
Okay, firstly?
I hate you
No, nevermind, I really don't.
But did you have to make Mentalist sound so bloody awesome that I decided to watch a couple minutes of it last season and end up getting hooked? I mean, honestly, Annie.
Gah.
Secondly, I love you :D Because it's awesome, and I think I'm hooked, and I've only seen two episodes. By the way, have you seen the season premiere yet? Because I'm about to go all 'splodey here and I really don't know if there's anybody else on my f-list I can do that with about this show. They're hilarious and snarky, and they lack personal space. Also, Cho is awesome.
***** *** * ***. I have no idea where to fit that into this.

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Date: 2009-09-27 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borg-princess.livejournal.com
Hee, hee, I know you don't hate me. I'm sure I give you enough reason, lol, what with the fandom converting and RL-time-chomping involved forthwith, but you always come around. :P

It's funny, I remember you being wary when I brought up Mentalist, all 'oh crap, here we go again' when I began expounding upon its virtues and inherent awesome, and now you're hooked...*g* Our tastes are too similar, my dear, if I fall for something, it's more than likely you'll enjoy it too and I have too little restrain when it comes to fandom sharing, lol.

Ooh, only two eps? Which ones? And omg, no, I can't find any damn d/l links for the ep yet, hopefully they'll be uploaded soon. *quivers anxiously* But dude, 'splodey, PLEASE, I am all agog to hear the latest details- bring on the living vicariously! *bounces*

Cho love! I cannot believe I overlooked him at first! I only watched for teh Jello and totally disregarded- *epic fail*- the supremely awesome sidekicks. Van Pelt and Rigsby are sweet and adorable [and wayyy better than the series bible originally had them- Rigsby was gonna be a bad boy, a playa with different hot chicks on his arm every week, UGH] but I love Cho's understated sarcasm best of the three!

Lol. ^_^ Random fandom love! Mentalist rocks! *hugglesquish*

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