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'Woke up and wished that I was dead, with an aching in my head, I lay motionless in bed...'
I was catching up on some recent and not-so-recent eps of my various favorite shows and was a little surprised and taken aback that they all shared the same theme.
The Week of Suicides
Random thoughts:
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House
I wondered whether or not I really wanted to see this episode. I love Kutner, I didn't realize how much I loved him til I was faced with the certainty of losing him. I really hate the writers for getting rid of his character this way, I mean, come on, why so vindicitive, people? I'm so frustrated when shows write out characters by killing them off, it's unnecessary, damn it. *snarls*
Cameron: Kuttner wasn't murdered.
House: You deduced that by removing your sunglasses to the strains of a Who song?
Hee! I love when characters in a tv show make a reference to characters in another tv show. This comeback is made of so much win!
I do wonder why it's so hard for the writers to acknowledge some couples do exist out there that are in love and don't hurt or betray each other. With every single relationship on this show, no matter how seemingly perfect, House relentlessly tears it open to expose some secret hidden weakness that will destroy it. There has only been one couple, to my knowledge, that were totally in love and he wasn't able to find any evidence they'd ever cheated on each other or harbored secret resentments or back-stabbed one another in any way...and then he exposed the fact that they were half-brother-and-sister, effectively ruining their relationship anyway, even if through no fault of their own. The message is not just 'everybody lies' but 'there is no such thing as true love'.
Anyway, I felt so much sympathy for the husband in this ep- he started off looking like a jackass and then he was willing to die for his wife...before finding out she had an affair. OUCH. I wanted to slap her, wtf with that 'It was nobody you knew'- oh, that makes it better? You really took his feelings into consideration before you broke your marriage vows, huh?
Poor Wilson's a little hard done by when it comes to Cuddy. I thought it was funny when he called her out on it, 'You don't give a crap about what I need, you just want someone to take care of House'. But I love that they're so close that her otherwise cryptic short-hand, 'He told Kutner's parents it was their fault' prompts him to shelve that bout of resentment and seek out his irritable friend. I do enjoy when Wilson and Cuddy work together to deal with House.
Taub: Kutner wanted to die, Charolette doesn't so in a contest for my concern and interest, she wins.
Chase: Okay. Either you're a cold-hearted bastard or you're too miserable to face it. Go home and cry.
Taub was a real jerk, acting all uncaring, but I don't hate him for it because I get the feeling he DOES care but just can't let it show. Nobody could be that indifferent to a colleague killing himself, except for House, and even House was all off-balance throughout the ep and affected by it, so I can't believe Taub didn't give a damn. Guilt makes people act in odd ways.
I was blinking back tears in the finale scene. I didn't full on bawl my eyes out like with Laura's death on BSG but I was definitely a little weepy. The moment that broke me was when Foreman took 13's hand- I knew it was coming, I guessed from the start that they'd reconcile at Kuttner's funeral, but no matter how predictable it was, I was still in a fragile emotional state and that finally set the barely repressed tears flowing.
Side note: Did we ever figure out why Kutner killed himself? Or was the message of the ep that nobody ever really knows?
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Lie To Me
Emily: See, in science class, we like to call it 'momentum'. You just need a ittle momentum, dad.
Cal: Traffic sucks.
Emily: You're avoiding the conversation. Have you even taken a woman out since you and mom split up?
Cal: Not your department.
Emily: I'm just saying, you know, you need to stop dwelling in the past, you know, you need to forge on, fight the good fight.
Cal: Where do you get this crap?
Emily: Oprah.
I know in print, it looks really harsh but I love this father/daughter conversation. Cal is so frustrated at her persistence and has this long-suffering air, lol, like he'd rather have a root canal than listen to her list what's wrong with his life and how he needs to get back on the dating scene. *snickers*
I'm used to daughters that really suck. The girl in Shark pissed me off every time I saw her, I just wanted to claw her eyes out and rip her lying tongue from her throat. *seethes* But this Emily is super sweet and totally concerned for her father and you can see how much she loves and cares about him. She brings him dinner, FCOL, because 'I figured you'd be working late.' How awesome is that? I know I'd never bother with my parents...
Emily: I thought you were going to come home.
Cal: I got a lot of work going on, love.
And she doesn't sulk about it, there's no whining. Her dad's got to work, she accepts that and tries to make his life easier and take care of him by making sure he eats. So sweet.
Emily: You really should, you know, try opening up to me.
Cal: Is that Oprah?
Emily: [lightly dismissive tone] Yeah, it might be.
She's so good at handling him, she doesn't get offended or take the bait when Cal tries to deflect the conversation.
Emily: Do you remember that girl at my school who- she took all those pills and...[lowers voice] killed herself? I didn't know her very well but she was in my art class...I wonder sometimes if anyone could've stopped her.
Cal just looks at her.
Emily: What?
Cal: Nothing. *pulls her into a long hug* You shouldn't think about that stuff, love.
Emily: What am I supposed to think about?
Cal: Celibacy. [LMAO]
Emily: [laughs, then tells him sternly] Food, here. Eat it.
I love how she's just so vulnerable one moment, then adorably bossy the next. This actress is so talented, that line when she was asking him about the girl who killed herself, the way she said that line, you could just feel her underlying distress and a hint of guilt and worry and how she was trying so hard to cover it up. Then Cal just hugs her and it's the sweetest moment, and I giggled so hard at that 'celibacy' crack. What a paternal response, lol.
It's a good thing we had these cute father/daughter scenes because otherwise, Cal was a real jerk for the rest of the ep. Especially to Gilly, when she wanted to have a private conversation to check up on him, and he just causesa scene by refusing to go with her, making her talk in front of everyone so that he can ridicule her, I mean, WAY uncalled for. Especially that comment, 'Go mother someone else'. BURN. I know he didn't mean it to hurt, but considering her history what with losing her kid...ouch. Really wanted to hit him on her behalf. *roars*
Of course, their relationship is so strong that Gilly doesn't let that overshadow the real problem- 'It wasn't your fault', she tells him, gently laying her hand on his. Love that moment. He pushed her away, snapped and snarled at her and because she's his friend, she realizes it's not about her and more his defensive mechanisms kicking in and she ignores the personal barbs in order to try and help him.
Gotta say, the young'uns piss me off. I'd airlock 'em both in a heartbeat if I could. chibi_tenshi and I ordered a hit out on Newbie ages ago, and the insolent young man now needs to be dealt with as well, in my opinion. The important thing was to ensure the victims are compesnated and their lives aren't ruined but he wants to make it about his personal morality issues and get on his high horse and demand the daughter be held accountable- how is it justice if people are hurt, his way?
Gilly: When you're the boss, make whatever calls you want.
I hate him for disobeying her and being such an asshole by screwing over the victims because this didn't sit well with his conscience. ARGH. The problem with him and Newbie is that they don't realize there are no black-and-white absolutes in life, you don't get 100% wins, you settle for 70% because we live in a flawed world and sometimes, that's the best you can get. I just want to throttle him so badly for screwing over his colleagues for a personal agenda and getting away with it without suffering any consequences. UGH.
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The Closer
A bunch of guys betting on who can sleep with the most virgins. *shakes head* The sickest thing about this ep is that I can see it happening. Kids are just so horrifyingly insensitive and cruel to each other. I remember Hotch in Criminal Minds saying 'all teenagers profile as sociopaths'. Scary, huh?
There was so much misdirection going on in this ep, I was completely suckered and when the twists were revealed at the end, I felt completely overwhelmed with pride and affection for Brenda. I honestly thought she was deluding herself into believing the girl didn't kill herself, that she was letting her emotions and female sensibilities affect her judgment and that she was jeopardizing the investigation because she couldn't see the truth.
And then at the end, it's revealed- she never did believe the girl had been murdered, but she knew that the boy who victimized her would never be convicted of rape and so she pushed the murder angle and hounded him about accusing him of murder in order to get a confession of rape. BRILLIANT move. I am in awe, yo. *applauds*
She was really harsh on the other rape victim, I was so angry at her for pushing Ally to relive those traumatic memories and making it seem like SHE was responsible if any other girls died because she didn't have the courage to step up and report what happened to her. Fragile rape victim, Brenda, and bulldozing over her was supremely uncool of you. But that end scene when the girl finally confronted her demons and came to the station to make a statement...and Brenda giving her this long hug as the girl clung to her for comfort...AWW. So much love for her. You can tell how much she cares.
Side note: I loved that Taylor had to beg her for a favor. The guy who tried so many times to get her thrown out in disgrace, now turning up pleading for her help...I'd've ground him under my foot and walked away laughing if we had that past history but Brenda chose the dignified mature way and good for her. Talk about respect!
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Thanks to the lovelyodakota_rose , I have figured out how to save a clip from youtube. I tried vixy.net which worked a couple times for me in the past, then crapped up and refused to play nice again. But now we have: http://www.kickyoutube.com/. [If y'all knew about this already, don't rub it in my face, 'k? I'm not a very modern kinda person *facepalm*] I was dying to have that clip of Marguerite shooting Roxton in case it got deleted, and now I have a copy of the file that I can glee over to my heart's content whenever I damn well please. *dances* Ecstatic doesn't begin to cover it. ^_^
Vid spam.
MAKES ME GIGGLE EVERY TIME. I'VE WATCHED IT A MILLION TIMES NOW AND I STILL FIND IT HYSTERICAL. >:D WHY I LOVE SEEING ONE HALF OF MY SHIP SHOOTING AT THE OTHER, IDK, BUT IT'S STILL THE FUNNIEST, AWESOMEST THING EVER.
The Week of Suicides
Random thoughts:
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House
I wondered whether or not I really wanted to see this episode. I love Kutner, I didn't realize how much I loved him til I was faced with the certainty of losing him. I really hate the writers for getting rid of his character this way, I mean, come on, why so vindicitive, people? I'm so frustrated when shows write out characters by killing them off, it's unnecessary, damn it. *snarls*
Cameron: Kuttner wasn't murdered.
House: You deduced that by removing your sunglasses to the strains of a Who song?
Hee! I love when characters in a tv show make a reference to characters in another tv show. This comeback is made of so much win!
I do wonder why it's so hard for the writers to acknowledge some couples do exist out there that are in love and don't hurt or betray each other. With every single relationship on this show, no matter how seemingly perfect, House relentlessly tears it open to expose some secret hidden weakness that will destroy it. There has only been one couple, to my knowledge, that were totally in love and he wasn't able to find any evidence they'd ever cheated on each other or harbored secret resentments or back-stabbed one another in any way...and then he exposed the fact that they were half-brother-and-sister, effectively ruining their relationship anyway, even if through no fault of their own. The message is not just 'everybody lies' but 'there is no such thing as true love'.
Anyway, I felt so much sympathy for the husband in this ep- he started off looking like a jackass and then he was willing to die for his wife...before finding out she had an affair. OUCH. I wanted to slap her, wtf with that 'It was nobody you knew'- oh, that makes it better? You really took his feelings into consideration before you broke your marriage vows, huh?
Poor Wilson's a little hard done by when it comes to Cuddy. I thought it was funny when he called her out on it, 'You don't give a crap about what I need, you just want someone to take care of House'. But I love that they're so close that her otherwise cryptic short-hand, 'He told Kutner's parents it was their fault' prompts him to shelve that bout of resentment and seek out his irritable friend. I do enjoy when Wilson and Cuddy work together to deal with House.
Taub: Kutner wanted to die, Charolette doesn't so in a contest for my concern and interest, she wins.
Chase: Okay. Either you're a cold-hearted bastard or you're too miserable to face it. Go home and cry.
Taub was a real jerk, acting all uncaring, but I don't hate him for it because I get the feeling he DOES care but just can't let it show. Nobody could be that indifferent to a colleague killing himself, except for House, and even House was all off-balance throughout the ep and affected by it, so I can't believe Taub didn't give a damn. Guilt makes people act in odd ways.
I was blinking back tears in the finale scene. I didn't full on bawl my eyes out like with Laura's death on BSG but I was definitely a little weepy. The moment that broke me was when Foreman took 13's hand- I knew it was coming, I guessed from the start that they'd reconcile at Kuttner's funeral, but no matter how predictable it was, I was still in a fragile emotional state and that finally set the barely repressed tears flowing.
Side note: Did we ever figure out why Kutner killed himself? Or was the message of the ep that nobody ever really knows?
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Lie To Me
Emily: See, in science class, we like to call it 'momentum'. You just need a ittle momentum, dad.
Cal: Traffic sucks.
Emily: You're avoiding the conversation. Have you even taken a woman out since you and mom split up?
Cal: Not your department.
Emily: I'm just saying, you know, you need to stop dwelling in the past, you know, you need to forge on, fight the good fight.
Cal: Where do you get this crap?
Emily: Oprah.
I know in print, it looks really harsh but I love this father/daughter conversation. Cal is so frustrated at her persistence and has this long-suffering air, lol, like he'd rather have a root canal than listen to her list what's wrong with his life and how he needs to get back on the dating scene. *snickers*
I'm used to daughters that really suck. The girl in Shark pissed me off every time I saw her, I just wanted to claw her eyes out and rip her lying tongue from her throat. *seethes* But this Emily is super sweet and totally concerned for her father and you can see how much she loves and cares about him. She brings him dinner, FCOL, because 'I figured you'd be working late.' How awesome is that? I know I'd never bother with my parents...
Emily: I thought you were going to come home.
Cal: I got a lot of work going on, love.
And she doesn't sulk about it, there's no whining. Her dad's got to work, she accepts that and tries to make his life easier and take care of him by making sure he eats. So sweet.
Emily: You really should, you know, try opening up to me.
Cal: Is that Oprah?
Emily: [lightly dismissive tone] Yeah, it might be.
She's so good at handling him, she doesn't get offended or take the bait when Cal tries to deflect the conversation.
Emily: Do you remember that girl at my school who- she took all those pills and...[lowers voice] killed herself? I didn't know her very well but she was in my art class...I wonder sometimes if anyone could've stopped her.
Cal just looks at her.
Emily: What?
Cal: Nothing. *pulls her into a long hug* You shouldn't think about that stuff, love.
Emily: What am I supposed to think about?
Cal: Celibacy. [LMAO]
Emily: [laughs, then tells him sternly] Food, here. Eat it.
I love how she's just so vulnerable one moment, then adorably bossy the next. This actress is so talented, that line when she was asking him about the girl who killed herself, the way she said that line, you could just feel her underlying distress and a hint of guilt and worry and how she was trying so hard to cover it up. Then Cal just hugs her and it's the sweetest moment, and I giggled so hard at that 'celibacy' crack. What a paternal response, lol.
It's a good thing we had these cute father/daughter scenes because otherwise, Cal was a real jerk for the rest of the ep. Especially to Gilly, when she wanted to have a private conversation to check up on him, and he just causesa scene by refusing to go with her, making her talk in front of everyone so that he can ridicule her, I mean, WAY uncalled for. Especially that comment, 'Go mother someone else'. BURN. I know he didn't mean it to hurt, but considering her history what with losing her kid...ouch. Really wanted to hit him on her behalf. *roars*
Of course, their relationship is so strong that Gilly doesn't let that overshadow the real problem- 'It wasn't your fault', she tells him, gently laying her hand on his. Love that moment. He pushed her away, snapped and snarled at her and because she's his friend, she realizes it's not about her and more his defensive mechanisms kicking in and she ignores the personal barbs in order to try and help him.
Gotta say, the young'uns piss me off. I'd airlock 'em both in a heartbeat if I could. chibi_tenshi and I ordered a hit out on Newbie ages ago, and the insolent young man now needs to be dealt with as well, in my opinion. The important thing was to ensure the victims are compesnated and their lives aren't ruined but he wants to make it about his personal morality issues and get on his high horse and demand the daughter be held accountable- how is it justice if people are hurt, his way?
Gilly: When you're the boss, make whatever calls you want.
I hate him for disobeying her and being such an asshole by screwing over the victims because this didn't sit well with his conscience. ARGH. The problem with him and Newbie is that they don't realize there are no black-and-white absolutes in life, you don't get 100% wins, you settle for 70% because we live in a flawed world and sometimes, that's the best you can get. I just want to throttle him so badly for screwing over his colleagues for a personal agenda and getting away with it without suffering any consequences. UGH.
---
The Closer
A bunch of guys betting on who can sleep with the most virgins. *shakes head* The sickest thing about this ep is that I can see it happening. Kids are just so horrifyingly insensitive and cruel to each other. I remember Hotch in Criminal Minds saying 'all teenagers profile as sociopaths'. Scary, huh?
There was so much misdirection going on in this ep, I was completely suckered and when the twists were revealed at the end, I felt completely overwhelmed with pride and affection for Brenda. I honestly thought she was deluding herself into believing the girl didn't kill herself, that she was letting her emotions and female sensibilities affect her judgment and that she was jeopardizing the investigation because she couldn't see the truth.
And then at the end, it's revealed- she never did believe the girl had been murdered, but she knew that the boy who victimized her would never be convicted of rape and so she pushed the murder angle and hounded him about accusing him of murder in order to get a confession of rape. BRILLIANT move. I am in awe, yo. *applauds*
She was really harsh on the other rape victim, I was so angry at her for pushing Ally to relive those traumatic memories and making it seem like SHE was responsible if any other girls died because she didn't have the courage to step up and report what happened to her. Fragile rape victim, Brenda, and bulldozing over her was supremely uncool of you. But that end scene when the girl finally confronted her demons and came to the station to make a statement...and Brenda giving her this long hug as the girl clung to her for comfort...AWW. So much love for her. You can tell how much she cares.
Side note: I loved that Taylor had to beg her for a favor. The guy who tried so many times to get her thrown out in disgrace, now turning up pleading for her help...I'd've ground him under my foot and walked away laughing if we had that past history but Brenda chose the dignified mature way and good for her. Talk about respect!
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Thanks to the lovely
odakota_rose , I have figured out how to save a clip from youtube. I tried vixy.net which worked a couple times for me in the past, then crapped up and refused to play nice again. But now we have: http://www.kickyoutube.com/. [If y'all knew about this already, don't rub it in my face, 'k? I'm not a very modern kinda person *facepalm*] I was dying to have that clip of Marguerite shooting Roxton in case it got deleted, and now I have a copy of the file that I can glee over to my heart's content whenever I damn well please. *dances* Ecstatic doesn't begin to cover it. ^_^Vid spam.
MAKES ME GIGGLE EVERY TIME. I'VE WATCHED IT A MILLION TIMES NOW AND I STILL FIND IT HYSTERICAL. >:D WHY I LOVE SEEING ONE HALF OF MY SHIP SHOOTING AT THE OTHER, IDK, BUT IT'S STILL THE FUNNIEST, AWESOMEST THING EVER.
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the idiot (just this once he was an idiot)
Not just then! Lol, he was a real doofus the first ep or two, when he couldn't see that Marguerite was totally different from any other woman he'd met and he was careless in his responses to her, thinking she'd just bend over backwards to accommodate him 'coz he's this famous lord with wealth and looks and all that. *snickers* I do so adore the fact that she bites him when he kisses her. >:D CAN'T TOUCH THIS. :P
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Oh he was an idiot and a doofus a lot of the times....especially in the first season. Always second guessing her and her motives...with reason sometimes.
Oh geez, totally. However, she was totally playin' him cause she knew who he was and I think in her mind in S1 she was going to teach him a lesson. LOL
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In a Mr and Mrs Smith kinda way? :P [That's another dvd on my wishlist]
Well, according to him in A Man of Vision, he knew from the first moment he saw her that they were MEANT TO BE. Like, the best way to show that is by acting condescending and arrogant to the woman you're destined to be with? Good move! *shakes head*
Angy as I get with him for judging and doubting her, I do love him for those sweet moments like in Salvation, when he's sticking up for her with Ned and saying he trusted her [even if it was only because he knew she needed them to watch her back].
I think in her mind in S1 she was going to teach him a lesson. LOL
Really? *ponders* As much as I adore their conversations already, I like the idea that underneath it was her intent to knock him down a peg or two.
I don't know if this makes sense, but I find it interesting that she doesn't employ her standard seduction routine on him. The other guys in the party are either unsuitable or taken but seducing Roxton would've been the way to go, I'd think, to make life easier for her if she had him under her thumb. He made his interest in her clear from the very start and he's the most likely guy to upset her plans, so you'd think making him more pliable by manipulating him with her feminine wiles would be the plan and yet she keeps trying to put a distance between them. It's like with the regular guys, she has no problems using them for her own agenda but with Roxton, even from the start, she felt there was some sort of difference there and it was too dangerous to mess around with that by playing her usual games.
Don't know if that was coherent, I'M the one that needs sleep now, lol. Fighting a battle to keep my eyelips open...it's so alarming when I'm on the bus and having a micro-sleep, then waking up and panicking in case I missed my stop, argh!
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(Anonymous) 2009-04-30 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)Not having see that movie (sorry, not a big Angelina & Brad fan). Considering that Roxton was supposedly a womanizer before leaving for the Plateau, he figured he be able to "bag a trophy" when he saw her. Then she really got his interest by shooting at him between the legs. I doubt that Roxton had ever met a woman who could shoot, much less shoot a rifle like Marguerite could.
Well, according to him in A Man of Vision, he knew from the first moment he saw her that they were MEANT TO BE. Like, the best way to show that is by acting condescending and arrogant to the woman you're destined to be with? Good move! *shakes head*
She agreed with him. Ah, but at that time they're both unsure of whether or not the other one will accept and love them warts and all. So Roxton goes into arrogantass mode and she goes into keeping him at a distance mode. I think she does that because she knows deep down she's gonna fall...and fall hard for him. And it scares her.
Angy as I get with him for judging and doubting her, I do love him for those sweet moments like in Salvation, when he's sticking up for her with Ned and saying he trusted her [even if it was only because he knew she needed them to watch her back].
I think he realizes that while she's pushing him away...he needs to have patience with her, even in S1 I think he realized then how special she was and that he really couldn't let her get away. So he would be just enough of an arrogantass to keep her from getting too close without completely pushing her away.
Really? *ponders* As much as I adore their conversations already, I like the idea that underneath it was her intent to knock him down a peg or two.
Same thing as "teaching him a lesson".
I don't know if this makes sense, but I find it interesting that she doesn't employ her standard seduction routine on him. The other guys in the party are either unsuitable or taken but seducing Roxton would've been the way to go, I'd think, to make life easier for her if she had him under her thumb. He made his interest in her clear from the very start and he's the most likely guy to upset her plans, so you'd think making him more pliable by manipulating him with her feminine wiles would be the plan and yet she keeps trying to put a distance between them. It's like with the regular guys, she has no problems using them for her own agenda but with Roxton, even from the start, she felt there was some sort of difference there and it was too dangerous to mess around with that by playing her usual games.
I think it's because she knew he wasn't one to seduce and throw away, like the other men in her past - except for the one who broke her heart - just as Roxton knew she was special, she knew the same thing about him. That's why she didn't try to seduce him too often (she tried, with help from that plant in Paradise Found) because I think she knew she'd need him to watch her back. If you piss off your back up...you have no back up. Besides I think she enjoyed toying with him.
Don't know if that was coherent, I'M the one that needs sleep now, lol. Fighting a battle to keep my eyelips open...it's so alarming when I'm on the bus and having a micro-sleep, then waking up and panicking in case I missed my stop, argh!
Yeah it was fairly coherent. Hope mine was...I was doing this while on break and I kept getting interrupted by a trucker who was rather impatient and annoying. gaaahh!
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Not having see that movie (sorry, not a big Angelina & Brad fan).
I HAD to see it 'coz my ship in SGA totally ripped off the movie- they were possessed by 'husband and wife' spirits that caused them to run around trying to kill each other, lol- and I wanted to see the inspiration. :D
Considering that Roxton was supposedly a womanizer before leaving for the Plateau, he figured he be able to "bag a trophy" when he saw her.
at that time they're both unsure of whether or not the other one will accept and love them warts and all.
Even by the end of season 2, after all they've been through with each other, they're still not on the same page on where they stand with each other. I kinda laugh but also slap myself on the head when Roxton totally screws up that conversation about their relationship. I mean, Marguerite's extending herself trying to come to terms with how she feels and- he wants to trivialize it?! I know that he totally didn't mean to make it sound that way and he probably didn't want to push her too far but oh, terrible choice of words...way to make her worry that maybe she is just that trophy he wanted to claim ever so un-subtly from the very first ep.
R: You could use a little more fun in your life.
M: Fun. Ha. That's what you think's going on between us. Idle meaningless amusement.
R: [hesitates] Well, I-
M: [mockingly] 'Well, I'...? Is that the best you can do?
[*snorts* Reminds me of 'is this the man voted most eloquent speaker in the House of Lords?']
R: All right, what do you think's going on between us?
M: [stunned] You don't know.
R: [resignedly] Apparently not.
M: [frustrated] Oh! You can be the most arrogant, insulting, insensitive-!
Poor Roxton. Half the time when he gets serious, she forestalls the conversation or they get interrupted and then on the rare occasion she was willing to listen to something more meaningful, he messes it up. *shakes head*
he realizes he needs to have patience with her, even in S1 I think he realized then how special she was and that he really couldn't let her get away. So he would be just enough of an arrogantass to keep her from getting too close without completely pushing her away.
I'm so in love with Marguerite that I sometimes forget it must be hard for Roxton, too. He's got his own issues to deal with, he's got his pride and then there's this unpredictable woman on his hands who could tear him to shreds if she chose to [the only good thing about Dead Man's Hill is that line I think you mentioned a while back, that he said he had never met a woman that could break his heart til Marguerite?], who's always keeping him at a distance, taking a few steps back...and of course, the others decide to make fun of his devotion to her now and then. *smacks them*
If she was totally cold and heartless, it'd be easy to forget about her, but then she's got to show the softer caring side, she's got to be funny and charming and get under his skin...another TLW fan [a guy] said that in real life, a man would never put up with someone like Marguerite, that her attitude would drive him off before long but what I love about Roxton is his dedication and commitment to her even before there was really reason to- even when she didn't encourage it, when it was the last thing she wanted. 'Don't make me your personal crusade. I'm not sure you're up to the challenge.'
I like the idea that underneath it was her intent to knock him down a peg or two.
Same thing as "teaching him a lesson".
I wasn't trying to claim a new idea or anything, I was agreeing with you. Otoh, it delights me that you actually get what I mean, it's so depressing that my peers either don't understand me or laugh and ask 'who says that anymore? It's from, like, the FIFTIES'. *headdesk* [I like the expression 'to flog a dead horse', okay? Sue me]
I was doing this while on break and I kept getting interrupted by a trucker who was rather impatient and annoying. gaaahh!
*squishes* I appreciate your dedication to the discussion, lol, even in the face of rude customers.
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Really? I'm sorry. Go glad your SGA ship ripped off that movie. ;)
Even by the end of season 2, after all they've been through with each other, they're still not on the same page on where they stand with each other. I kinda laugh but also slap myself on the head when Roxton totally screws up that conversation about their relationship. I mean, Marguerite's extending herself trying to come to terms with how she feels and- he wants to trivialize it?! I know that he totally didn't mean to make it sound that way and he probably didn't want to push her too far but oh, terrible choice of words...way to make her worry that maybe she is just that trophy he wanted to claim ever so un-subtly from the very first ep.
I don't think he realized what she was saying until...
R: You could use a little more fun in your life.
M: Fun. Ha. That's what you think's going on between us. Idle meaningless amusement.
R: [hesitates] Well, I-
M: [mockingly] 'Well, I'...? Is that the best you can do?
[*snorts* Reminds me of 'is this the man voted most eloquent speaker in the House of Lords?']
R: All right, what do you think's going on between us?
M: [stunned] You don't know.
R: [resignedly] Apparently not.
M: [frustrated] Oh! You can be the most arrogant, insulting, insensitive-!
It's so cute how he realizes AFTER she's called him those names what she's talking about. Poor Roxton...
Poor Roxton. Half the time when he gets serious, she forestalls the conversation or they get interrupted and then on the rare occasion she was willing to listen to something more meaningful, he messes it up. *shakes head*
True that.
stay tuned for part 2 of this reply...damn I'm wordy tonight. LOL
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Some one way back when the show was still airing said something like Marguerite knows his soul. Knows that he's not as damned as he feels he is for (accidentally) killing his brother. I think Roxton's pride is far out weighed by the guilt he feels for (again accidentally) ripping his family apart with that one shot to attempt to save his brother. That shot killed his brother and devastated his father (who later died) as well as his mother. Some how, some way, Marguerite knows this and she's the (imho) only one who helps him finally see that he's not damned for it.
If she was totally cold and heartless, it'd be easy to forget about her, but then she's got to show the softer caring side, she's got to be funny and charming and get under his skin...another TLW fan [a guy] said that in real life, a man would never put up with someone like Marguerite, that her attitude would drive him off before long but what I love about Roxton is his dedication and commitment to her even before there was really reason to- even when she didn't encourage it, when it was the last thing she wanted. 'Don't make me your personal crusade. I'm not sure you're up to the challenge.'
But she never was in my book. She played at cold and heartless because I suspect growing up she got knocked down a LOT by others (her being an orphan and all) then there's the
jerk wadehusband who broke her heart. I truly believe she was head over heels in love with him and he left her for a mistress or two and left HER with all the bills....and no money to pay them. Not something you do to some one. Then there's all her guilt about possibly being evil (she's totally not). Roxton sees past that and that's why he keeps trying, no matter how many steps back they might go because of her fear of getting hurt again.As for your "guy" friend, He might not be able to handle a woman like Marguerite, but I bet there are guys out there who could and would because they know a rare find when they see one. But that's just my big ol' romantic heart talking. What do I know. ;)
That whole peg or two/lesson thing...I was just making sure we understood each other. ;) We do. LOL However, you should remember I'm old enough to be your MOM. ;) Hence my knowing what it means. LOL
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Do you think he did realize, though? I think I was too busy being amused at Marguerite spreading her hands defensively, like, 'I didn't do it!' when the whole treehouse shakes after she bangs on the table, lol. I do enjoy these non-verbal moments. It reminds me of her in Survivors when Challenger goes down a different fork in the caves as she's talking about being an international jewel thief wanted on five continents, then she looks around and realizes he's gone and she's all 'omg, wtf?! AHH, CREEPY! ' Hee! Those things aren't scripted, I bet, and they're so funny.
Some one way back when the show was still airing said something like Marguerite knows his soul. Knows that he's not as damned as he feels he is for (accidentally) killing his brother. Some how, some way, Marguerite knows this and she's the (imho) only one who helps him finally see that he's not damned for it.
There's no 'imho' about it, ITA, Marguerite IS the only one that helps him. The others may know about what happened but it's HER that listens to his confessions and supports him and oh god, that scene in Fire in the Sky makes me want to tear out my hair with the emotional intensity of it all, when she reaches out to him and caresses his face and tells him he doesn't deserve to feel guilty, 'You've suffered enough already'. *bites lip* [She looks like she's on the verge of tears, feeling his pain, it's just- ack! *dies*]
I think it's because Marguerite's done things deliberately in the past, things she's not proud of but were necessary at the time, that she can comfort him, because she gets it. The others...the worst things they've done don't compare to accidentally shooting a brother and any sympathy they might offer, however sincerely meant, doesn't come from a place of real understanding, like with her. They do have issues that they struggle with but nothing compared to Roxton's guilt and remorse, and none of them are emotionally equipped to help him with that. [I think Challenger made a few references to the incident but in his usual careless insensitive way, argh. Why is it the only one he seems to connect to emotionally, on rare occasions, is Veronica? I don't get it.]
I love that it's the least saintly of the group that's actually the best qualified to deal with it. She doesn't pretend to be a good and noble person and she doesn't hold him up to the same lofty standards other people may have, at the end of the day, he's just a man, he's human like the rest of them. In Resurrection, when she puts things in perspective, out of the two of them, he's not the damned one, what with her soul being 'worse for wear'- I love that Marguerite tearing herself down is enough to pull him out of his depressed mood to tend to her, they both care about each other so much it's hilarious how oblivious they remain.
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Do you think he did realize, though? I think I was too busy being amused at Marguerite spreading her hands defensively, like, 'I didn't do it!' when the whole treehouse shakes after she bangs on the table, lol. I do enjoy these non-verbal moments. It reminds me of her in Survivors when Challenger goes down a different fork in the caves as she's talking about being an international jewel thief wanted on five continents, then she looks around and realizes he's gone and she's all 'omg, wtf?! AHH, CREEPY! ' Hee! Those things aren't scripted, I bet, and they're so funny.
Yeah I think he does but in that split second it's hard to see it. Watch his face as she goes back to the table and slams her hands on it...just before the tree house starts shaking and the noise happens.
There's no 'imho' about it, ITA, Marguerite IS the only one that helps him. The others may know about what happened but it's HER that listens to his confessions and supports him and oh god, that scene in Fire in the Sky makes me want to tear out my hair with the emotional intensity of it all, when she reaches out to him and caresses his face and tells him he doesn't deserve to feel guilty, 'You've suffered enough already'. *bites lip* [She looks like she's on the verge of tears, feeling his pain, it's just- ack! *dies*]
It's because she's the other half of his soul, just like he's the other half of hers. He sees her how most fans see her (well at least the SMART ones see her). He knows she's not as cold and calculating as she plays at. The only other person that ever really saw her like that was Summerlee. *sadsigh*
I'm surprised Roxton could focus on her...considering she's wearing a TOWEL and it's possible when she touches his face...he got a little peek at what it was covering. LOL
I think it's because Marguerite's done things deliberately in the past, things she's not proud of but were necessary at the time, that she can comfort him, because she gets it. The others...the worst things they've done don't compare to accidentally shooting a brother and any sympathy they might offer, however sincerely meant, doesn't come from a place of real understanding, like with her. They do have issues that they struggle with but nothing compared to Roxton's guilt and remorse, and none of them are emotionally equipped to help him with that. [I think Challenger made a few references to the incident but in his usual careless insensitive way, argh. Why is it the only one he seems to connect to emotionally, on rare occasions, is Veronica? I don't get it.]
Or it's because of stuff she didn't want to do (think Parsifal) but knew she HAD to, to help save more lives than the one or few she might have ended. Couldn't have been easy for her.
As for Challenger...I don't think he was being careless or insensitive, he was just being Challenger. Veronica...I chalk her attitude up to the fact that in her world, which consists of the Plateau, things are black and white, not the shades of grey/gray real life tends to be.
I love that it's the least saintly of the group that's actually the best qualified to deal with it. She doesn't pretend to be a good and noble person and she doesn't hold him up to the same lofty standards other people may have, at the end of the day, he's just a man, he's human like the rest of them. In Resurrection, when she puts things in perspective, out of the two of them, he's not the damned one, what with her soul being 'worse for wear'- I love that Marguerite tearing herself down is enough to pull him out of his depressed mood to tend to her, they both care about each other so much it's hilarious how oblivious they remain.
She treats him a little better than she treats everyone else...with a bit of disdain so as to keep them at arms length so they can't hurt her. But then she lets him in without realizing it...by treating him with respect and compassion. I love that he promises her "always". :D
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Dude, IKR?! I'm kinda like, 'Okay, your brother died, HUGE tragedy, no, seriously, I feel for you- but there is a sympathetic, loving woman clad only in a TOWEL right in front of you, the woman you've wanted since you first saw her, seize the moment already!' *facepalm*
Two things about this scene I wanted to ask:
-Firstly, Marguerite's awful singing. I'm confused, considering she supposedly sung in a nightclub, and also, her hallucination of Adrienne commented on her lovely voice, right? So what's the deal?!
-Also, it struck me as a little odd the way Marguerite reacted when Roxton said Pierson Rice was there, when she tugged the towel tighter around her body and looked around worriedly. Marguerite doesn't strike me as the shy type, heck, she uses her body to distract and beguile men all the time, and she wanders around the jungle in a glorified bra when the mood strikes her, she's not exactly self-conscious.
Or it's because of stuff she didn't want to do (think Parsifal) but knew she HAD to, to help save more lives than the one or few she might have ended.
*snorts* That's what I meant by Marguerite's done things deliberately in the past, things she's not proud of but were necessary at the time :P Although I also meant it in the broader sense, there's also the things she got up to while running around on the streets at, what, 15?
I confess, I do laugh at the thought of her being in a convent. I know I shouldn't, considering how awful her childhood experiences were and I'm sure they were horrible to her, but it's just- Marguerite. Convent. I keep thinking of her meeting Maria from Sound of Music and it's just so random and hilarious and ridiculous! :D
*sings* 'How do you solve a problem like Margueriiiiite?'
-yeah, I'll stop now. :P
She treats him a little better than she treats everyone else...with a bit of disdain so as to keep them at arms length so they can't hurt her. But then she lets him in without realizing it...by treating him with respect and compassion. I love that he promises her "always". :D
The only reason she's even able to let him in is because of how he treats her. 'Everyone else' pretty much maintains the same attitude towards her as they had from the start. But Roxton- he goes from that initial 'You don't think much of me, do you?'/ 'Less than you'll ever know' exchange to wanting to help her deal with the aftermath of the Cave of Fear and being so sweet when she was a little down and depressed in Salvation, 'I'll never forget you, that's for sure'. I love that moment- she's so touched by that statement, by him not ridiculing her and actually trying to make her feel better...and then she has to visibly force herself to stop feeling all mushy and to make a snarky comment. 'A lot of good that will do me when you're digested by some prehistoric nightmare.' Hee!
Saving lives is one thing, all of them would do that for each other, regardless of how they felt- look at Ned, cursing Marguerite one moment, running out to save her by getting beaten up in her stead the next, lol. But Roxton's got the manly heroics covered as well as the emotional support. It's funny because in RL, the stereotype is that guys never want to talk about feelings, and yet he's always there, waiting patiently to talk things through with her. Even when he's consumed with guilt over his brother, he reaches out to help soothe her. That 'always' moment makes me squee- okay, sure, a second later, he's all, 'DID I?' but we know he meant it, she knows he meant it, so yay!
There's this quote I can't remember, damn it, which is always the case, but it's something about how if you love someone completely, it is impossible for them not to be altered or affected in some way. That's what happens with her.
And you know, while I was googling for that [in vain], I came across this, 'It is the same in love as in war; a fortress that parleys is half taken. ~Marguerite de Valois. I have no idea what it even means- food for later thought- but ha! Marguerite +Stone Cold's Valois!
Yes, I'm a fan of random connections. Did you notice? :P
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I think her singing OFF key was on purpose. I think because she doesn't know why or how she does sing with the "voice of an angel" it scares her, so she keeps that bit of her life hidden.
-Also, it struck me as a little odd the way Marguerite reacted when Roxton said Pierson Rice was there, when she tugged the towel tighter around her body and looked around worriedly. Marguerite doesn't strike me as the shy type, heck, she uses her body to distract and beguile men all the time, and she wanders around the jungle in a glorified bra when the mood strikes her, she's not exactly self-conscious.
I don't think it was a self-conscious act in that she was afraid to show him her body, more of a "this is the man that has caused 'my man' to feel so guilty I don't like him at all" reaction. You know how you shiver when someone you don't like comes near? That's what I see her reaction as.
The only reason she's even able to let him in is because of how he treats her. 'Everyone else' pretty much maintains the same attitude towards her as they had from the start. But Roxton- he goes from that initial 'You don't think much of me, do you?'/ 'Less than you'll ever know' exchange to wanting to help her deal with the aftermath of the Cave of Fear and being so sweet when she was a little down and depressed in Salvation, 'I'll never forget you, that's for sure'. I love that moment- she's so touched by that statement, by him not ridiculing her and actually trying to make her feel better...and then she has to visibly force herself to stop feeling all mushy and to make a snarky comment. 'A lot of good that will do me when you're digested by some prehistoric nightmare.' Hee!
Yeah, he and Summerlee are the ONLY ones who do not treat her nice one minute and then smack her (virtually) with how the talk about her or to her.
Interesting find you found. ;)
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I'll go with that. ;P It was driving me nuts not being able to reconcile the facts with her behavior. She's such a complicated character! :D
this is the man that has caused 'my man' to feel so guilty I don't like him at all" reaction
Okay, I'd buy that if she didn't ask who Pierson Rice was immediately after that reaction...
OMG, it was so weird when I watched the first few eps again and Summerlee was kinda snobby to her! I'm thinking of she made her proposal at the Zoological Society. I was so used to sweet!grandpa!Summerlee that it was a bit of a shock rewatching him at the beginning, lol.
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I'll go with that. ;P It was driving me nuts not being able to reconcile the facts with her behavior. She's such a complicated character! :D Okay, I'd buy that if she didn't ask who Pierson Rice was immediately after that reaction...
Okay, it was a, "only Roxton gets to see me like this...where is this other person?"
OMG, it was so weird when I watched the first few eps again and Summerlee was kinda snobby to her! I'm thinking of she made her proposal at the Zoological Society. I was so used to sweet!grandpa!Summerlee that it was a bit of a shock rewatching him at the beginning, lol.
Summerlee was snobby to everyone in the beginning.
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As for your "guy" friend, He might not be able to handle a woman like Marguerite
Acquaintance, mind you. We had one or two interesting-verging-on-frustrating email convos about the show. He's the first fan I ever 'met' that actually believes Marguerite shouldn't be as bold and fiery and sarcastic as she is. Does. Not. Compute. How does one watch the show and not adore her for all that? His favorite character's 'Finnykins', so...yeah. *shrugs* If this is typical of the male viewer, well...
, but I bet there are guys out there who could and would because they know a rare find when they see one. But that's just my big ol' romantic heart talking. What do I know. ;)
It's kinda funny, Dakota and I were saying that guys like Roxton in fandom had spoiled us for anyone in real life, because we'd expect guys to be impossibly heroic and romantic and sensitive and charming...etc. etc. ;P It'd be nice to believe there are real men like Roxton but as sentimental as I am, I'm not convinced. *sighs*
That whole peg or two/lesson thing...I was just making sure we understood each other. ;) We do. LOL However, you should remember I'm old enough to be your MOM. ;) Hence my knowing what it means.
Excellent. ;P And mother's turning 43 this year. And FRAKKING HELL, you just reminded me it's Mother's Day in a week. I need to figure out what to do. *frowns* She's so un-materialistic, it's frustrating.
Btw. Apropos of nothing, I just wanted to show you a pretty banner I found.
It was a toss-up between this and the one I currently have as header. I like this, but the one I have is more applicable to me.
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I'm not fond of him either, but it explains a LOT of why Marguerite was so hesitant to admit to herself and to Roxton that she loved him. In some ways I think Marguerite thought she wasn't strong enough to withstand getting her heart broken again, especially by Roxton. I think that in her mind it would kill her if he broke her heart. I know it would have KILLED ME if he had. LOL Then I would have gone to Australia and hunted down whatever writer/producer/executive who came up with that stupid idea and killed them. Okay maybe not really killed them...just made them wished they could travel back in time and NOT do what they did to piss me off. LOL
Acquaintance, mind you. We had one or two interesting-verging-on-frustrating email convos about the show. He's the first fan I ever 'met' that actually believes Marguerite shouldn't be as bold and fiery and sarcastic as she is. Does. Not. Compute. How does one watch the show and not adore her for all that? His favorite character's 'Finnykins', so...yeah. *shrugs* If this is typical of the male viewer, well...
OH well if his favorite is Finn, that explains it. Most guy fans of the show prefer Veronica or Finn since they're not nearly as strong willed as Marguerite. It's the horny teenage boy factor the producers have to toss in to get the demographic they THINK is watching shows like TLW when in reality more WOMEN watch it and other scifi/fantasy shows than they realize.
It's kinda funny, Dakota and I were saying that guys like Roxton in fandom had spoiled us for anyone in real life, because we'd expect guys to be impossibly heroic and romantic and sensitive and charming...etc. etc. ;P It'd be nice to believe there are real men like Roxton but as sentimental as I am, I'm not convinced. *sighs*
Yeah I hear ya. Roxton spoils us for men and Farscape spoils me for most other scifi shows.
As for Mother's Day, why not make her a collage of family pics or something in Photoshop. It's not materialistic and it might mean a bit more to her.
That banner, eh...it's okay. I like the one you have better. :D
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But that would never have happened. That's what makes me so giddy about this show, you KNOW they're meant to be together and Roxton's never going to treat her the way that frellwit ex of hers did because he values her so much and she is literally the most important thing in the world to him.
[I kinda laugh in The Prisoner when he sees the squished woman and goes, 'Thank god'. Everyone's looking at him like, WTF? And he goes, 'Uh, I mean, Where's Marguerite?' Dude, even I think that's harsh! And in both Eye for an Eye and Endgame, the others are all in danger, their lives could be lost but he's all, 'NO, NOT MARGUERITE', lol, like Veronica just took a nasty tumble over the railing to the lower level of the house, but who cares? *snickers*]
I don't know why so many writers thinks it's cool and dramatic to get characters together and then show them ripping each other's hearts out and stomping on them. Ack. If one of those idiots had joined the show and dared to mess with our ship, I'd've totally been with you on the hunt/torture mission.
Most guy fans of the show prefer Veronica or Finn since they're not nearly as strong willed as Marguerite. It's the horny teenage boy factor the producers have to toss in to get the demographic they THINK is watching shows like TLW when in reality more WOMEN watch it and other scifi/fantasy shows than they realize.
*snorts* Sad but true. This is the attitude that unfortunately guides so many shows, but it's because it works, in some cases, anyway. For instance, Voyager rated so much better after Jeri Ryan and her skin-tight catsuit joined the show. [Yeah, I'm never forgiving them for that]
That said, my cousin's boyfriend occasionally watches TLW with us and he likes Marguerite the best. Or at least...he claims to, maybe he realizes he's risking castration if he says one word against her in my presence, lol. I gotta get Netty to subtly question him when I'm not around. I can cope if people don't agree with me on something but I can't stand it when they lie to me and say what they think I want to hear. Seriously, hurt me with the truth instead of lying because I feel a million times more betrayed when I find out about the deception.
Apparently the whole family- including my aunt, cousins and grandmother- is going out for lunch on Saturday for a combined Mother's Day/my father's birthday. But just a meal doesn't feel right. I might be cliched and take her to a movie. :P I like the collage idea but I'm so not the arty type. I gotta get myself Photoshop and learn how to use it one of these days.
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WE know that, but at the time Marguerite didn't know that. I believe she wanted to truly believe Roxton wasn't like the jerkwad, but her brain and heart weren't cooperating with her. So she was hesitant a lot of the times. Besides, she still has secrets she's afraid that Roxton will leave her over. I don't think he would, considering how he reacted to the realization that she was Parsifal. :D
*snorts* Sad but true. This is the attitude that unfortunately guides so many shows, but it's because it works, in some cases, anyway. For instance, Voyager rated so much better after Jeri Ryan and her skin-tight catsuit joined the show. [Yeah, I'm never forgiving them for that]
I liked 7of9, but not the costume. Yes it is sad but true that most producers/prouction houses still think that the horny teenage boy is how they need to gear shows towards, but in all honesty, it's the woman who does most if not all the purchasing in any family...so yeah...that mind set just baffles me.
That said, my cousin's boyfriend occasionally watches TLW with us and he likes Marguerite the best. Or at least...he claims to, maybe he realizes he's risking castration if he says one word against her in my presence, lol. I gotta get Netty to subtly question him when I'm not around. I can cope if people don't agree with me on something but I can't stand it when they lie to me and say what they think I want to hear. Seriously, hurt me with the truth instead of lying because I feel a million times more betrayed when I find out about the deception.
LOL He might be doing just that. OR he could be telling you the truth. There are a few rare men out there who do honestly like Marguerite.
Apparently the whole family- including my aunt, cousins and grandmother- is going out for lunch on Saturday for a combined Mother's Day/my father's birthday. But just a meal doesn't feel right. I might be cliched and take her to a movie. :P I like the collage idea but I'm so not the arty type. I gotta get myself Photoshop and learn how to use it one of these days.
Ah well have fun! ;) Photoshop is a bit tricky, but just jump in and play around. That's how I taught myself. :D
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I didn't mind Seven at first- and then they ruined my ship by putting her and Chakotay together. I'm the kind of petty person that will hate on a character for such a crime. I love Jeri in Shark [cancelled! *wibbles*] so who knows, when I rewatch Voyager, I might find myself liking her this time round.
The costume is ridiculous, though. She was taken at six years old, she may be super-intelligent but her social maturity was stunted because of that and they want to stick her in this space bimbo outfit?! It's just so demeaning and irresponsible.
The boyfriend is pretty sweet, though. He asked for my permission before joining us, in case he was intruding. Of course, I'm all, 'Heck, the more TLW fans, the better!' but still, nice thought on his part.
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BUT she knew that the MI-5 liaison would know a lot about what Parsifal did...and I suspect it probably contained information about the people she may have killed in her role as Parsifal. That is what I think is what she thinks he'd be horrified at. Roxton isn't into killing humans.
I didn't mind Seven at first- and then they ruined my ship by putting her and Chakotay together. I'm the kind of petty person that will hate on a character for such a crime. I love Jeri in Shark [cancelled! *wibbles*] so who knows, when I rewatch Voyager, I might find myself liking her this time round.
Hey if Jeri can overlook the uncomfortable costume and enjoy and rejoice over the complicated character that 7of9 was, then so can you. ;b YOU didn't have to wear that costume. ;-b LOL
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A GEMNTLEMAN'S DUTY IS TO BELIEVE WHAT THE LADY TELLS HIM!!!!!!!!!
I will write that down somewhere!!! brilliant!!! ^_^
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I didn't really expect anyone to watch the clip, I just posted it because I adore it so much and you watched it?! *loves you* Yes, I am crazy obsessed with Marguerite Krux, the woman in that clip, so just getting to share that with someone else makes me all bouncy and giddy. :D She has got such a sarcastic, hilarious wit, it's awesome.
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*wibbles* I want me a copy, damn it. But I can't find it anywhere. Same with the UK version of season 1 that apparently had bloopers. *sighs* I love the season 3 bloopers and the thought that there are similar ones for the other seasons makes me want to cry at the unfairness of life. ;_;
*rewatches the s3 bloopers to cheer up*
Where's Will going? :P
Oh, ****, I shot myself. God, that hurts! *gigglesnorts*
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A friend had taped the movie when TNT aired it years ago and then burned it onto a DVD for me. :D It is NOT on DVD properly though...which is sad. They reworked the movie and made the first 2 eps of S1, The Journey Begins & Stranded.
Ah, Will's voice is now playing on my telly. He's the voice over for the US restaurant chain, Outback Steakhouse. :D
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OHHH, hang on...see, I was looking up dvd sets online and getting all worked up at the fact that the s1 dvds had bloopers but maybe all three seasons have the same s3 bloopers? Doesn't make sense to me, but that option is a lot more palatable than the notion that I'm being forced to miss out. *nods* Okay, I'm going with the first theory.
A friend had taped the movie when TNT aired it years ago and then burned it onto a DVD for me.
Ah, I see. What a wonderful friend! *envies*
I was reading through the script and really, that shooting scene was the only thing I really believe they should've kept- it was rather an abrupt transition from London society to the jungle! Other than that, I think the editing was fairly good.
He's the voice over for the US restaurant chain, Outback Steakhouse. :D
Are you serious?! That's so cool, just randomly hearing him on tv! ^_^ Does he sound much different to TLW? I mean, the accent isn't really all that British and I wonder if it's basically how he speaks in RL, lol.
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I'm haven't a clue why they cut that scene...unless it was "too violent towards men". You know, men get a little testy (hee hee, pun intended) when anyone gets near the "family jewels" as it were. Or they just didn't think it fit. Who knows. I'm just glad I have the movie. :D
Yes it's rather cool and random when the commercials show up. I don't even watch them...just listen since it's only his voice. He uses his more normal Aussie voice, however, I think it's gotten a bit toned down since he's been living in the US for a few years now.
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But I saw your comment about Youtube. What Browser do you use? Firefox with (for example) DownloadHelper, works like a charm. I never have any problems to download vids from Youtube.
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Btw, is it all right if I friend you? Your profile page mentions that people should ask...
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If you've questions, just ask. I like tech stuff :)
Btw, is it all right if I friend you? Your profile page mentions that people should ask...
You're sweet :) Sure, friend me. But you should know that I don't update my personal LJ often. I spend the most LJ time at the community. But I try to keep up with my flist too ♥
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It would be epic, and House would have to vacate the field tail tucked firmly between his legs because Hotch is everything House doesn't believe in.
DragonLady
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The thing I love about Hotch is he's such a powerful figure without needing to be loud and macho and aggressive, he's the calm quiet dude but so much scarier and more intimidating for all that when he gets really riled up. And I can see House trying to provoke him and getting frustrated at being unable to get a reaction and Hotch calmly analyzing his behavior to put him on the defensive...