There is just an inordinate amount of rape!fic in the HP fandom. I have not seen its like in any other fandom that I can remember.
I am baffled by this. I think maybe it's because JKR created a really dark world but since it's meant to be kid-friendly, she suppresses or ignores a lot of ugly realities about this world and that law about fandom abhorring a vacuum means that writers overload on angst!violence!DARK!themes in order to compensate.
Kinda like episode tags where we don't get resolution on something and people write fic to flesh it out, except instead of things like post-ep fics about Elizabeth dealing with thinking that Shep was an 80 year old on the verge of death and then finding him returned hale and hearty, young and handsome once more, at which point the ep ENDS *glares at writers* we get an abundance of rape!fics.
My gf actually stumbled a week or two ago into a fic that, completely without warnings of any sort, has Snape being raped by a bloody unicorn within the first two pages and, apparently, it just got more offensive after that *shudders*
No. No frakking way. WTF?! *stabs writer for insane amounts of fail* What kind of fic does teh gf like to read? *iz curious*
I'm rather sad- I first got into reading Buffy/HP crossovers and I could handle reading different ships, but once I got hooked on Hermione/Snape, I couldn't deal with anything else. I've still got a whole bunch of crossover!fics saved for reading that I don't think I can ever read now, 'coz they've got Buffy/Snape or Willow/Snape or Hermione/Ron. Gah.
That contrast between rape and whump- very articulate and I get that. I was kinda floundering before knowing there was a difference but not how to express it. And omg, poor Will! Sounds like you're really gonna put him through the wringer, yikes...
You know, if he was forced to rape her to save her life, or something, that could actually be interesting and thought-provoking if it was handled right (his guilt, her anguish/confusion, the fact that their relationship is in tatters and probably not going to be salvagable but he still feels compelled to try to help her through) but, the minute a female that age is raped, the rules for interaction with her change if you're an adult responsible for her care/healing. The second sex becomes part of the picture, you've crossed the line. That would be like a teenage girl going to a shrink or a priest for help after being raped and he suddenly decided it would be acceptable to sleep with her.
Ack, I feel so guilty. After this chat, I came across a fic on this exact premise, Augury and Ardor (http://www.sycophanthex.com/ashwinder/viewstory.php?sid=14458&i=1), and even though as a rule, I don't touch these fics with a ten foot pole, I ended up reading and- finding it- interesting. *facepalm* Yes, I'm a damn hypocrite, allow me my foibles. *sighs*
It's totally unrealistic as it skips the whole thing about any emotional trauma or lingering mental repercussions and it's more about HIS angst at what he did rather than hers [which is the unrealistic part- how can she not suffer anything after that? No matter how much she comes to love him? Which fact in itself- oh, what the hell, it's a romance fic, I shouldn't nitpick] but damn it, I did save it to read again later when I'm less conflicted.
It's one of the rare fics where I like the offspring. I really enjoyed the two or so future!chapters about the kids. Definitely way better than that craptastic epilogue JKR had in her offense of a conclusion to the series. She's a good writer and it doesn't matter what I say against her, she's a millionaire because of this series, but I have to say I despise her overly cliched method of writing. Slytherins are evil, Gryffindors are noble- even if they betray their friends or try to set up their friends to be a murderer in an attempt to get other students killed. YEAHHH.
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Date: 2009-09-14 02:12 am (UTC)I am baffled by this. I think maybe it's because JKR created a really dark world but since it's meant to be kid-friendly, she suppresses or ignores a lot of ugly realities about this world and that law about fandom abhorring a vacuum means that writers overload on angst!violence!DARK!themes in order to compensate.
Kinda like episode tags where we don't get resolution on something and people write fic to flesh it out, except instead of things like post-ep fics about Elizabeth dealing with thinking that Shep was an 80 year old on the verge of death and then finding him returned hale and hearty, young and handsome once more, at which point the ep ENDS *glares at writers* we get an abundance of rape!fics.
My gf actually stumbled a week or two ago into a fic that, completely without warnings of any sort, has Snape being raped by a bloody unicorn within the first two pages and, apparently, it just got more offensive after that *shudders*
No. No frakking way. WTF?!
*stabs writer for insane amounts of fail*
What kind of fic does teh gf like to read? *iz curious*
I'm rather sad- I first got into reading Buffy/HP crossovers and I could handle reading different ships, but once I got hooked on Hermione/Snape, I couldn't deal with anything else. I've still got a whole bunch of crossover!fics saved for reading that I don't think I can ever read now, 'coz they've got Buffy/Snape or Willow/Snape or Hermione/Ron. Gah.
That contrast between rape and whump- very articulate and I get that. I was kinda floundering before knowing there was a difference but not how to express it. And omg, poor Will! Sounds like you're really gonna put him through the wringer, yikes...
You know, if he was forced to rape her to save her life, or something, that could actually be interesting and thought-provoking if it was handled right (his guilt, her anguish/confusion, the fact that their relationship is in tatters and probably not going to be salvagable but he still feels compelled to try to help her through) but, the minute a female that age is raped, the rules for interaction with her change if you're an adult responsible for her care/healing. The second sex becomes part of the picture, you've crossed the line. That would be like a teenage girl going to a shrink or a priest for help after being raped and he suddenly decided it would be acceptable to sleep with her.
Ack, I feel so guilty. After this chat, I came across a fic on this exact premise, Augury and Ardor (http://www.sycophanthex.com/ashwinder/viewstory.php?sid=14458&i=1), and even though as a rule, I don't touch these fics with a ten foot pole, I ended up reading and- finding it- interesting. *facepalm* Yes, I'm a damn hypocrite, allow me my foibles. *sighs*
It's totally unrealistic as it skips the whole thing about any emotional trauma or lingering mental repercussions and it's more about HIS angst at what he did rather than hers [which is the unrealistic part- how can she not suffer anything after that? No matter how much she comes to love him? Which fact in itself- oh, what the hell, it's a romance fic, I shouldn't nitpick] but damn it, I did save it to read again later when I'm less conflicted.
It's one of the rare fics where I like the offspring. I really enjoyed the two or so future!chapters about the kids. Definitely way better than that craptastic epilogue JKR had in her offense of a conclusion to the series. She's a good writer and it doesn't matter what I say against her, she's a millionaire because of this series, but I have to say I despise her overly cliched method of writing. Slytherins are evil, Gryffindors are noble- even if they betray their friends or try to set up their friends to be a murderer in an attempt to get other students killed. YEAHHH.