'Is there a word for uncanny yet irritating?'

[marguerite_krux]

I AM SAD. :[
You guys know how I crave crackalicious cracky goodness like a drug, right?
[TLW- case in point]

I heard about this supposed Snow White remake with Natalie Portman as a reincarnation of Snow White and seven NINJAS, instead of dwarves, sent to protect her from her Evil Stepmother's schemes.
How insanely awesome sounding is this? Snow White and NINJAS, yo. Kung fu + fairytale = *insanely bouncy glee*

But whether or not the movie is real, rather than the figment of some lunatic's imagination, Natalie Portman apparently turned down the role. *woes* I love Natalie Portman, she adds class to her projects. [I don't care how badly Mr Magorium's Wonder Emporium was savaged by critics, I'm buying it on dvd, shut up] 

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Question: What do Teresa Lisbon and Elizabeth Weir have in common?
[Apart from devastatingly handsome male colleagues- with *g* enviable high fashion hairstyles- who charm them into approving all sorts of insane plans?]

Two lady bosses and framed photos of their canine buddies.





The images with the blond chick are from two separate interviews- between which Lisbon added another photo of her dog to her desk. Aww, puppykins! [Btw. Is it weird that I notice this?]

THEY EVEN HAVE THE SAME TASTE IN PHOTO FRAMES. PLAIN AND SILVER. :D
I know, I know it doesn't mean anything but I love it anyway. Crossover fic, pretty please?!

'k, I went through a few different SGA eps and these caps were the best I could find of Sedge! I know there must be better ones, but... *sighs* Not that I found. My efforts were in vain. *pouts* HOWEVER, the following totally makes up for it...

Bonus pic of Torri:
 

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I love that she dresses up her dog in sci-fi props, that is hilarious! :D

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Meme! snurched from kat_rowe:

"Name your 15 absolute favorite couples [het/slash/canon/fanon] and ask people to see what trends they notice about your couples. Try to pick different fandoms."

'k, some of these I haven't dabbled in for ages but I've absolutely loved all of them at one stage or another, whether for a brief duration or with a never-ending, undying passion.

1. Marguerite Krux/Lord John Roxton [The Lost World]
2. Patrick Jane/Agent Teresa Lisbon [The Mentalist]
3. Prince Arthur Pendragon/Lady Morgana Le Fay [Merlin]
4. Admiral Bill Adama/President Laura Roslin [Battlestar Galactica]
5. Dr Daniel Jackson/Vala Mal Doran [Stargate: SG-1]
6.  Dr Elizabeth Weir/Lt Col John Sheppard [Stargate: Atlantis]
7. Agent Emily Prentiss/Agent Aaron Hotchner [Criminal Minds]
8. Agent Fox Mulder/Agent Dana Scully [X-files]
9. Dr Gillian Foster/Dr Cal Lightman [Lie to Me]
10. Dr Gregory House/Dr Lisa Cuddy [House]
11. Jarod/Miss Parker [The Pretender]
12. Agent John Doggett/Agent Monica Reyes [X-files]
13. Agent Kate Daniels/Curran aka his Furry Arrogance- bwahaha. *gigglefit* Um. Yes, anyway... [the Kate Daniels novels]
14. Captain Kathryn Janeway/Commander Chakotay [Star Trek: Voyager]
15. Nathan Ford /Sophie Devereaux [Leverage]

*side note: word’s auto-correct suggests that Sophie’s last name ought to be spelt…’defraud’. Lmao*

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Vidspam:

Katy Perry- Hot 'n Cold

This makes me giggle so much. ^_^ If ever a couple gave off mixed signals [what with the kissing in other people's bodies and random 'accidental' groping and then marrying other guys], 'twould be these two.

Comments

[kat-rowe.livejournal.com]

Snow White with ninjas? Interesting. If that's your kind of thing, you may want to pick up a copy of the new novel "Pride and Prejudice and Zombies". Utter crack that actually incorporates a lot of the actual text from the original F&F and throws in routine zombie attacks. Elizabeth Bennet is a borderline-psychotic Warrior Princess of a socialite and Darcy's aunt maintains a small army of (you'll like this) Ninjas. I'm not very far into it yet, but it's pretty cracktastic. Kind of the literary equivlent of eating peyote and then going for a walk through the woods at twilight.

Am in agreement on most of your ships (you get a *hug* for Foster/Lightman) but HUDDY? You don't think they'd find House DEAD one morning for finally pushing one too many buttons? Sorry, House needs a doormat or no one at all, imo, 'cause he wouldn't still be OUR House if he changed for anyone *shrug* Shutting up now. Sofie Defraud? Cute! And fitting as I recall from the series :) Mine told me to make "John Druitt" "John Fruit" which is equally apt.

Xena/Gabby eye-candy. Always nice. There really WAS a great deal of subtext in that show, wasn't there? Wow, no wonder my parents didn't want me watching it as a kid...

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

Why, hello, darling! Lol, you always seem to be online!

OMG, I want that Pride and Prejudice novel- ZOMBIES, you say?! *flails* And you know how I feel about warrior princesses! [I'm interested to see the socialite version, lol] Thanks so much for the rec, THIS is what I mean by crackalicious goodness, yay! :D

Also? Just checked the library catalogue- they have it on order! Woohoo!

Foster/Lightman- my new ship. I'm all giddy inside just thinking about them, it's got that shiny new-ness about them, y'know? *twirls*

But lol @ Huddy- I shipped them from day one, got a little tired halfway through the series and decided to wait for the dvds 'coz I was over it, then they amped up the shippiness in the latest season and considering how many fandoms I've been screwed over by the writers, I just couldn't resist diving back in when FOR ONCE, they're indulging me.

I don't see House and Cuddy having a romantic wedding and spending the rest of their lives waking up next to each other and having blueberry pakes and syrup in bed, holding hands and walking through the park and having a picnic or anything...it'd gross me out if they were suddenly all gooey and lovey-dovey because no way is that House.

I'm happy with the bicker/flirt dynamics, I don't need them in a romantic relationship because there's so much angst and sexual tension and reluctant affection and all that binding them together for me to feed off. [Unlike the majority of shippers, I- don't particularly mind the season finale, I don't feel cheated, lol]

Do you ship House with anyone? Or just watch for the snarky cripple brilliantly saving lives while offending anyone who dares to breathe near him? :P

Sofie Defraud? Cute! And fitting as I recall from the series :) Mine told me to make "John Druitt" "John Fruit" which is equally apt.

IKR?! I love it, that's the best auto-correct suggestion EVER, so fits her. Heh.
And I didn't get a chance to see Sanctuary *criz* but I'm interested to see how 'fruit' is a fitting last name for this guy...*ponders*

I'm having fun wading through all the vids! This is the most fun I've had watching vids for a couple I don't ship! [Though I am so tempted. Like with Merlin, I'm a hetter, I'm all about Arthur/Morgana, but there are such obvious Arthur/Merlin vibes and I find them utterly adorable...]

Ha, our parents were total opposites- yours didn't want you watching it, mine watched it with me! I remember my parents being uncomfortable or laughing at certain scenes and I was all confuzzled 'coz I was too young and innocent to realize the subtext, but now when I watch back through it...*snickers* Yeahhh....

[kat-rowe.livejournal.com]

always online until i manage to find a job *sigh* which, living in a part of the country with 12% unemployment could take awhile. I spend more than 7 or 8 hours a day looking for a job and I get seriously disheartened with the whole process, lol. so i spend a lot of time online *shrug*

P&P&Z is pretty cracktastic. Lizzie overhears Darcy say she's not pretty and she seriously considers mounting his head on her mantle. Lucky for him, that's when the zombies attack the ball, lol...

Love Foster/Lightman, although not sure I want to see it requited yet. I just love how well they know each other and how worried he is and the way he's willing to dig.

I see what you're saying on Huddy, I suppose, but we also honestly don't have much clue WHAT that happened between the two of them this season actually DID happen between them *shrug* If I'm in a really perverse mood, I ship House with James "pathological doormat" Wilson because anyone who was willing to go there with cut-throat bitch is obviously going to be willing to go there with House and House is just manipulative enough to use that fact to his advantage *shrug*

You will NOT see Druitt acting particullarly fruity in MOST of Sanctuary (a compelling argument could be made in 12 & 13 that he's displaying some serious guy-love towards Watson) except inasmuch as he's a soft-spoken Victorian gentlemen. I find it amusing becuase of the historical MJ Druitt. I can't really elaborate on that without spoiling the second ep for you

My parents were odd. Drugs and violence were just peachy; sex was NOT. Well, raised in Germany in the 30s and knocked up at 15 so can kind of see where they were coming from in a sick "you're dooming your daughters to the same fate" way *shrug*

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

Aww, I'm sorry to hear about your employment woes. *hugs* And yeah, the internet is a pretty good relief for a disheartened mood, it's like my therapy, lol.

I'm thinking if the library doesn't get that book in soon enough, I'm gonna buy it. Sounds absolutely marvelous- Lizzie makes me laugh already, nice spirit there, heh.

Oh, I definitely don't want any requited-ness happening with Foster and Lightman just yet. My favorite favorite thing in all my ships is when they're so comfortable with each other that they can pretty much read each other's minds and anticipate their needs and communicate on a whole other level. I love...I guess the emotional intimacy more than the idea of their physical intimacy.

Lightman stalking her husband- true love? :P

Ahaha. Wilson is a pathological doormat, isn't he? I really did love him and CTB. I mean, I loved CTB all on her own, and I liked seeing her with Wilson because it brought her baaack. Just to kill her again. *sniffles* Not cool!

Soft-spoken Victorian gentleman...KILLERRRR. Love the contrast. I'm okay with spoilers, but you don't have to explain anything unless you want to talk about it. I'm just so glad that I put Sanctuary on series link because I set it to record the first ep, not realizing the second followed straight after...would've DIED if I'd missed it. I mean, no, I haven't seen the series yet but I'm pretty confident I'll love it. :D

Drugs and violence were just peachy; sex was NOT.

Isn't that the way, though? Not just with your parents- although, yikes, 15?! I can see how they'd want to keep those ideas out of your head- but with tv and society in general. It's funny seeing what's censored- shows with people running around with guns, shooting others, that's okay, yay violence! But sex...oh, the horror. *snorts*

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[kat-rowe.livejournal.com]

The job thing's just hard because I've been off the market for 3 years (Mom was sick and needed someone with her 24/7) so am pretty much having to go back to entry-level. The last 2 places I worked no longer EXIST (thanks global economy) so references are kind of on the thin side as well since it's been almost 5 years since i graduated school, so *shrug*

Yeah, i am WAY more into emotional intimacy than physical. Especially the kinds that's so established it's "casual" without being not serious in any way, shape or form. "I know what you're thinking", "I know exactly what you need right now', that kind of thing. And, yes, husband-stalking is a definite sign of true love since, given the nature of Lightman's relationship with Foster, i don't see it being an obsession but a genuine concern for her well-being. very sweet

Yeah, killing CTB like they did made about as much sense as killing Kutner like they did *shakes a fist at Fox* But I stand by the House/Wilson thing becaues NEITHER of those two is functional enough for a NORMAL relationship...

irl, Montague John Druitt was one of the leading suspects for the Ripper murders back in the day (that's more up in the air now), but Scotland Yard's file on MJ Druitt make it clear that he was a homosexual. John Druitt from Sanctuary is, of course, based on that guy and is the real Jack the Ripper in series canon. Without going into TOO much detail, James Watson, the man who inspired the literary character of Sherlock Holmes was intimately involved in the Ripper investigation and, most nights, disscussed every detail with Druitt and Druitt more or less strung him along throughout the investigation. When Watson calls Druitt on the betrayal, the subtext OOZES out of the screen to such an extent that I ended up writing my first non-canon slash. *hunts for screencaps*

Watson: "Why ARE you here, old boy?"
Druitt: "Why, to save the world as we know it, of course." *smirks* "And, time allowing, to reassert my superiority in our... battle of wits."
Watson and Druitt: *toast each other*
Will: *looks on like his head's about to explode from the awesome*
http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?pid=21882&fullsize=1

Druitt: "Must have been quite the blow to your ego."
Watson: "It's NOT that I failed to see the clues laid out before me. It's that it was YOU. For God's sake, John, it was YOU!!!"
(yeah, and this one actually demands multiple caps)
http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?pid=23739&fullsize=1
http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?pid=23743&fullsize=1
http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?pid=23756&fullsize=1
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I don't know. Maybe I'm imagining it, but especially in that last one, Watson looks like he's thinking "Kiss me or kill me, John, just end this nightmare somehow."

plus. you know, positions you don't find two straight men in every day:
http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?pid=23760&fullsize=1

and i don't care if you slash them or not, but the emotion in this scene is just heartbreaking. "Perhaps the old boy is losing his taste for the sport" were some of the last words Druitt spoke to Watson before Watson found out Druitt WAS the Ripper

Watson: "You could as easily leave me here to die."
Druitt: "I could."
Watson: "Then why DON'T you?" (sounds like he's almost pleading)
Druitt: *grasps his shoulder* "Perhaps the old boy is losing his taste for the sport..."
http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?pid=23783&fullsize=1

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[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

That's really tough, I hope you catch a break soon. It's definitely hard to get a reliable job these days.

Especially the kinds that's so established it's "casual" without being not serious in any way, shape or form. "I know what you're thinking", "I know exactly what you need right now', that kind of thing.

THIS.
Unspoken communication, being able to gauge the other person's mood and feelings, knowing them better than anyone else in the world...oh, I crave that like a drug.

Lol, I agree re: Cal. I didn't think it was a sign of a creepy obsession, it's what you do when a friend's in trouble and you want to have all the facts so you know how to help. Definitely a sweet gesture on his part.

I just didn't think killing either of them was necessary! Why is it so hard to just promote people or come up with a way other than DEATH to account for their departure from the show? I cried so hard over Amber, and I just didn't get Kutner's suicide, wtf. I know it was supposed to point out how we never really know other people and there IS no explanation and everything but it was a terrible thing to do to his character.

I can't offer an intelligent response to the picspam, but holy crap, intense, much?! And way with the slash, I mean, those pictures are pretty convincing. I'd buy it as canon in a second. Especially the 'it was YOU' caps, I mean, whoa!

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[kat-rowe.livejournal.com]

Thanks. I'm sure it'll work out for me here eventually. Just have to keep my eyes open and be persistent.

*nods* if you've got the emotional intimacy, the sex is pretty much secondary at that point. Yes, nice icing on the cake, but also not strictly necessary to what makes the two people so perfect together.

No, LIghtman stalking Foster's husband didn't come across as remotely creepy or even inappropriate because it was so obviious that he was doing it out of love and worry rather than desire or jealousy, which made the whole thing just beautiful (if painful) to watch

Oh, if it had JUST been Amber, it wouldn't have pissed me off because, much as i liked her character (anyone that can compete with House on that level SHOULD be kept around, damn it) because her death at least advanced the plot. Kutner's was more or less a throw-away. House was ALREADY starting to doubt himself, so "how could i not have seen this coming?" simply fails to strike me as ample justification. Especially given the bait-and-switch with the implications about Taub's depression and previous suicide-attempt. I don't mind misdirection (it can be fun) but that was just stupid and unneccesary, imo. There was NOTHING in Kutner's characterization to suggest suicide. He was young, social, and obviously got a real kick out of life. That's beyond "not seeming depressed on the surface". I'm sorry, but me and my psych degree aren't buying that. It MIGHT have been justified if they'd pursued House's "he was actually murdered" theory past that episode, but they didn't so it was just cheap, pointless, and gratuitious. It also gave me a flashback I could have done without *shakes head*

Yeah, shiny picspam, yes? I may have written some M-rated Watson/Druitt after putting that together and actually LOOKING at the caps again *hums innocently* I mean if those guys WEREN'T in bed together at some point in the past, you know damned well they WANTED to be. It also makes sense to me on a historical level if you want my convluted justifications because i gave it a LOT of study before i decided i wasn't just imaging things (seriously "No Love Without Forgiveness" had almost 2 pages of author's notes, most supplying historical/literary justifcations for the idea of Sherlock Holmes/Jack the Ripper -- if you care, let me know and i'll copy/paste them for you)

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[kat-rowe.livejournal.com]

You'll LOVE Sanctuary, I'm sure. It's a very smart show, elevates "monster of the week" to a whole new level by hardly ever making the monsters the bad guys. And the mythology is GLORIOUS even if you aren't up on history. But you know, I'm not sure you NEED to be much of a history buff to appreciate the appeal of Sherlock Holmes/Jack the Ripper as former best friends (and quite possible more). Especially when both were in love with the same woman. Oh, and while we're talking about that woman, but on a completely unrelated note:

"I know what you're trying to do, Doctor! You're trying to profile me, like a common criminal. Well, here's a little secret for your books. I'm NOT so common..." Serious bonus points to any woman who can make four little words into a simultanous come-on/death-threat
http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?pid=17846&fullsize=1
http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?pid=17844&fullsize=1

*fans self* Hello, Doctor Magnus! To this day, I imagine that poor man wakes up from dreams about that experience trying to figure out whether they were nightmares or sex-dreams. It's incredibly hot, but in a very distressing way, lol.

Okay, a few slightly less disturbing Sanctuary screencaps because I simply ADORE the Magnus/Will dynamic (and you won't catch me shipping them this decade), then I'll desist with the pic!spaming

student/teacher ftw!!! http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?pid=16975&fullsize=1

*thinking* "Well, if it isn't my newly-acquired shadow?" http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?pid=17175&fullsize=1

for longer than you can know... http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?pid=7438&fullsize=1

there you are then, Will. my darkest secret. proof enough of the faith I repose in you? http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?pid=7458&fullsize=1

okay, okay, enough pimping my favorite show. any of the other caps i might wish to share are on the spoilery side. but, as long as I'm going all out pimping Sanctuary, two very funny lines from the show

Henry: "Women and geeks first! Oh, no, wait, that's ALL of us..."
-- ep 4

Henry: "I thought your mom grounded you?"
Ashley: "Uh, she did. I'm just... going out to get some feminine products."
Henry: *smirks* "'Feminine' like a crate of uzis?"
Ashley: *grins* "Dude, you want me to get us some toys or what?"
Henry: "Hey, I never saw you."
Ashley: "Attaboy!"
-- ep 1

okay, will stop obsessively pimping Sanctuary now, lol. silly of me to bother since you not only want to WATCH the show, you want to LIKE it, lol. which i really think you will. it's clever, relevant, and at 80% green-screen, eye-candy abounds.

lmao, nope, can't have a kid finding out what grownups get up to behind closed doors *shakes head* which may be why my sister also ended up as a teenaged mother *shakes head* not that I can complain for one second given how wonderful and amazing my niece turned out. As for violence, we were a military family and it was EXPECTED that one of these days I was going to be shooting people for a living *shrug*

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[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

elevates "monster of the week" to a whole new level by hardly ever making the monsters the bad guys.

This is what I'm talking about!
Something I've realized lately, especially from Merlin, is how I really enjoy that kind of ambiguity. I mean, you have King Uther outlawing magic and executing people and he's this harsh dictator but then you see the other side to him where he's reacting out of a need to control everything so he can protect the people he cares about and keep the land a strong united whole...then you have magic users conspiring against him and on the one hand, it's treason and killing people is wrong, but otoh, they're being persecuted and their lives are at stake and they've gotta fight back instead of just waltzing up to the executioner's block and laying their neck down tamely for the blow. I can see both viewpoints and empathize with both of them, and that's really interesting for me.

So I really like the idea of sympathetic monsters, instead of one-note 'GRARR, HERE TO KILL YOU' monsters.

Haha, I love that 'I'm not so common' line and her attitude. It's so creepy and sexy at the same time. *flails* Very disturbing!

And thanks for the pics/quotes! Lol at the 'geeks and women' line, hee, DILEMMA. And gotta love a girl that uses 'feminine product's as a euphemism for dangerous weapons, ahaha.

silly of me to bother since you not only want to WATCH the show, you want to LIKE it, lol. which i really think you will.

No, no, not silly at all! For one thing, I love pimping to other people and I appreciate your enthusiasm and adoration for this show. And I was so looking forward to seeing it last weekend but my grandmother had visitors so I didn't end up going over [she's the one with the Foxtel subscription], and this was a really lovely way to tide me over til I can finally get to see it. Gracias!

can't have a kid finding out what grownups get up to behind closed doors *shakes head* which may be why my sister also ended up as a teenaged mother

I don't know how anyone who claims to be intelligent can believe that never talking to kids about sex will prevent them from experimenting or getting into trouble all on their own. The idea that discussing safe sex will MAKE THEM PROMISCUOUS is so stupid and frustrating, I want to slam their heads into a wall- repeatedly.

But it's great that things worked out for your sister and niece. I don't wanna make like I think she should never have been born or anything, it's fantastic when there is a happy ending. ^_^

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[kat-rowe.livejournal.com]

That's what makes Sanctuary smart, imo. It doesn't fall into the trap of going with the familiar roles and patterns and it keeps you guessing. On the "keeps you guessing" front, I'll start by refering you to my icon. Henry Foss: tech geek, security expert, snarky comic relief. And they REALLY get you thinking that all there is to the guy. Then, ep 7 rolls around and they drop some info about him in your lap that has you going "Oh, do NOT try to convince me Henry's... WTF?!?!? What do you mean he... How can he... Don't you mean... Are you SURE? Well, fuck me, 'cause i did NOT see that coming." and you're sitting there after the ep going "Okay, that could explain a few things." and then you see the very NEXT episode and it's like "And that scene right there just explained everything else..." up to that point, i just LIKED henry. after those two eps it was like "Outta the way, Will! New favorite character ftw!!!"

Or when you find out that Magnus had a child by Jack the Ripper in ep 2 and are STILL surprised in ep 7 that she also went to school with another famous personality from that period (and, omfg, what they did to HIS character is just wickedly brilliant) and you wrap your head around THAT friendship and they drop two more in your lap in ep 12 and you're just sitting there lost in the grip of this ginormous geekgasm trying to wrap your head around a concept that SHOULDN'T work, but damned well DOES in execution. Also, which is REALLY hot for me on an intellectual level is that fact that something Druitt said in passing in ep 1 foreshadowed ep 13 pretty much perfectly (when the dialog from ep 1 was taken from a webisode written almost 2 years before ep 13 was shot)...

So the writers are doing some thinking. There's also a great deal of moral ambiguity running through most of the series. And not just "the monsters aren't always evil" thing. Although, they exemplify that perfectly in ep 1 with this exchange

Will: "I work with criminals, not monsters."
Magnus: *raises an eyebrow* "You fail to see the irony in that statement?"

And they definitely get bonus points from me for being willing to go to that place in the first place but it gets better. Because the Sanctuary may operate with the best of intentions, but their methods are sometimes damned questionable. At one point, Will (a former police Profiler) believes that a man was murdered even though his death looked like suicide and Magnus refuses to let Will go to the police with his evidence because she's more interested in protecting her patient than she is in human justice.

She's got Will thoroughly compromised and I'm positive she knew exactly what she was doing. He's damaged goods, she damned well KNOWS it about him, and she uses it to her advantace. Her initial approach to him was VERY "strangers with candy". She walks up to him after he's had a professional upset, alone on a dark street, and she drops EXACTLY the right bait to get his attention. She knows what'll tempt him (not sex) and she doesn't have a problem dangling it there. Once he agrees to hear her out, she procedes with an epic mind!fuck that is best summed up by an LJ icon i can't find again, but that shows her giving him a reassuring grin. The caption reads "Please pardon my smile as I prepare to completely shatter your perceptions of reality." Between ep 1 and ep 3, she has transformed Will from "dedicated cop" to "guy willing to participate in kidnapping three unconscious women from Scotland, smuggle them into the United States, and then colude in thier continued capitivity" and he never even REALIZES.

And they do have the best of intentions, but there's no getting around the fact that these people kidnap, sometimes kill, hack, tamper with evidence, and lie to the police on a regular basis. Druitt accuses Ashley at one point of "kidnapping, maiming and killing whatever Mummy tells you to without regard for the consequences!" and that does kind of sum her up at times. You can't help but LIKE them, but I personally find the moral ambiguity really tantalizing. When you start accepting the idea that the ends justify the means, how are you really any better than the opposition (especially since said opposition ALSO firmly believes it's doing the right thing)?

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[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

Ummm, yes, I know this is really late but let's ignore that because...

OMG! I watched the first three episodes and it is FANTASTIC. I CANNOT EVEN SUM UP HOW MUCH I LOVE IT! Boy, I'm glad I never knew how awesome it was before, I'd've combusted from frustration before this point. O. M. G.

I was so dubious at the whole idea- okay, doctor lady from back in the days of Jack the Ripper, managing some exotic zoo, riiight then- so I kinda dismissed it, and then when I saw it was coming on, I figured I may as well give it a shot and then you started squeeing about it and I definitely knew I'd be into it but HOLY CRAP, THE LOVE. *runs out of breath from excitement*

*inhales deeply* Okay, I'm okay. It's just, I'm so excited. I don't ship anyone in this show but I'm so into it, and that's unusual for me. Usually ship's my hook, y'know? But I love Amanda in this. It's funny, I loved Carter for so long, then I kinda hated her for a brief period of bitterness, then I was with the liking of her once more but without that edge of obsession that made it so fulfilling for all those years and now, I have something better. Helen Magnus is way more awesome than Carter. I have to say, Carter could be a Mary Sue sometimes- and I say this as a long time fan of hers- but Magnus is just...so amazing. *fangirls*

Huh, I'm really intrigued by this Henry thing you're tantalizing me with! So far, I'm really liking him, 'snarky comic relief' may not be as well-respected as 'angsty, driven hero' but I so prefer him right now, lol. I prefer the guys that make me laugh. :D

I love that the writers are really smart on this show. I haven't seen that much yet, so I can't appreciate the interconnectivity and how plot threads in different eps tie together, but ti's so great that they're thinking and that there's revelations that fit into past eps and explain things and show them in a different light. I usually count myself lucky to get a writing staff with some grasp of what continuity means, lol.

Have you seen 4400? It kinda has similar themes- and even has Kavan in a few eps!- what with the main characters chasing down people with abilities and studying them or imprisoning them if they're dangerous, and it had that moral dilemma thing as well where the main characters question if what they're doing makes them the good or bad guys.

I really love how Magnus drops bombshell after bombshell on Will. Like that rooftop scene- heh, 'don't do it, you've got so much to live for' [paraphrasing, due to my lack of obsessively detailed knowledge about this show- but I'm working on it!]- where she mentions that she's had her eye on him since she first saw him and he's thinking when she hit him with her car, lol, and she ever so casually reveals that no, it was actually when he was a kid and he *brain!splodes* when he realizes that his memories of what happened with his mother weren't the delusions of an overimaginative/traumatized kid. She just doles these out, bit by bit, cracking his perceptions more and more, it's so fun to watch.

how are you really any better than the opposition (especially since said opposition ALSO firmly believes it's doing the right thing)?

I'm kinda sad that the other side seems to be superior in force and influence- I mean, on one side, we have Magnus, daughter and a few tagalongs; on the other, they've got these mercenary types storming in with guns and outnumbering them...hmm.

I haven't seen much of the other side yet, but um, they don't seem so sympathetic so far, claiming the sisters as their property, wtf? Will's trying to encourage them to explore free will and independence and the other guys are all about locking up their possessions safe and sound, yeah, I'm not liking them at all.

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[kat-rowe.livejournal.com]

Better late than never, m'dear *hug* not like you've had anything better to do :)

Yeah, I was highly dubious at first as well. Mostly because, for some idiot reason, Sci Fi was pitching it as "sexy" (thier word) instead of just plain smart and new. Even Amanda Tapping alone wouldn't have been enough to draw me in. I just wanted to see if it was possible to pull of 80% Green Screen on a weekly basis. *likes digital eye-candy*

This show's great in its lack of overt ships (aside from the obvious Druitt/Magnus) but, at the same time, it still deals very strongly with relationships. Magnus' relationship with her daughter, to a lesser degree her relationship with Henry, and always her relationship with Will. Which totally fails to take the expect course between a female and male lead in a mainstream television series where you'd probably see heavy-duty flirting by the end of the first ep.

I mean, yes, for all practical purposes, Magnus used seduction to draw Will into her world, but she wasn't using her body to do it and it sure as hell wasn't Will's body she was targetting, either. I just find their relationship beautiful to watch unfold because it's so true. Could they get together down the road? Quite possibly, but it's not something that's on the radar for either one of them. Right now, they're getting to know each other and growing closer in other, more important ways, and it's good enough for both of them.

Magnus is amazing. Do you know the song "Bitch" by Meredith Brooks? (If you don't, I'll send you the lyrics -- not derogatory despite the title.) That is Helen Magnus in a nutshell.

Oh, Henry's great :) Once you ratchet your jaw shut again after ep 7, you'll be even more in love than before ;p

Oh, these writers have their shit together in a big way. If you go back and watch the original webisodes against the first 3 eps, you might see some of what's coming in the rest of the season, but you'll still be in for some surprises.

*nods* 4400 was good. There's not a lot of overt "are we the good guys or the bad guys?" that occurs in Sanctuary, but there's this uneasy awareness that their methods are questionable at times. Will occassionally butts heads with Magnus like in the scene I described above with the suicide(?) but he also goes along with an awful lot of questionable methods and behaviors. And, sometimes, he's skirting the law while simultaneously "helping" the police or Feds. It's all about getting the case solved for him, but he's withholding a great deal from the people he used to work for...

Yeah, Magnus requires a pretty steep learning-curve from her new protege. Gets a little easier for him from here on out, but she never entirely stops surprising him, either. And Will is loving every freaking second of it... :)

The Cabal's definitely superior to the Sanctuary in terms of manpower and resources, but I actually see them as being fairly evenly-matched to the Sanctuary. I have Magnus tell a Cabal operative "I will happily destroy the Cabal if that's what it takes to protect my own. You think you know what we're capable of but you are wrong. We have strength and passion and willpower, and we have access to men and women with powers you cannot begin to comprehend..."

It'll be some time before you realize what the Cabal's actual agenda is, but they do believe they're doing the right thing. It doesn't make them remotely sympathetic, but it does, to me at least, underline some of the similarities between them and the Sanctuary in terms of methods and ideology. You'll see what I mean :)

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[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

Ha, goes to show how they target their audience, through sex appeal than smarts. Not surprised. I really like the green screen deal, everything's so pretty. I know it's not real but I just ooh and ahh over the shiny scenery and effects- like first ep, Ashley in that tunnel when the trains whips around and she has a split second to avoid smushage? Sooo pretty.

I'm in love with the mother/daughter relationship. I get so sick of shows where kids are brats and cause more trouble than they're worth and you wonder WHY the parents put up with them, and she and Magnus are just so wonderful to watch. I like when she fusses over Ashley- even if you are a tough cookie, it's nice to know someone cares.

And man, I'm not sure who I love more. Helen's supreme awesomeness, undeniably, but Ashley is good competition. I love how fearless she is, like when she meets that winged guy up on the narrowest little bars above the city with gusting winds and she's carrying on the convo like they're having coffee at a cafe or something, aiyiyi. [I was so sad that winged dude died, he was cool *sniffles*] She's so snarky and then almost cute, then whiplash to the psycho, it's uber-fun to watch. *sighs*

*g* I'm liking the lack of Magus/Will shippiness, I don't see them that way. I think maybe because she's so much more confident and assured and experienced in this world and he's still fumbling through it, he seems so innocent and naive right now [though you say that changes, yay] and I don't know, it seems more maternal than anything atm, but yeah, who knows about the future. So glad it's getting a second season!

Lol, do I know Bitch? I did a Marguerite fanvid (http://borg-princess.livejournal.com/57755.html) to it a while back. :P

Well, 4400 was a lot more mainstream than this, so apparently that means less with the moral dilemma and more about sexing and stuff. But I give it credit for dabbling a little, anyway. I don't like too much politics in my shows [I hate that in Stargate, with the politicians like Kinsey, with the NID, those eps are the worst] but it was interesting when they institutionalized the persecution of the 4400 and did some pretty nasty things to them and people were queasy over it.

"I will happily destroy the Cabal if that's what it takes to protect my own. You think you know what we're capable of but you are wrong. We have strength and passion and willpower, and we have access to men and women with powers you cannot begin to comprehend..."

'k, see, that would be win. Because it feels like this huge nasty corporation with ties everywhere against a teensy little family corner store, and I'm not liking the imbalance.

I really wish I had the whole series to marathon through right now, all these hints are getting me so excited, lol. I do support the whole 'ends justify the means' thing, and I can see that as something the Cabal and Sanctuary have in common, but the Cabal don't seem to care all that much about the fate of humanity or about the Abnormals, I'm thinking it's probably more power and greed, so meh.

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[kat-rowe.livejournal.com]

Oh, that scene with Ashley in the tunnel is great. I saw the actual rough footage of that, just Emilie smushing herself against a wall as the special effects guys wheel this huge industrial fan past her and you still believe she's trying not to get smushed. Then you throw the CGI in and it's like 0.0

Oh, Magnus/Ashley is ftw. Very subtle for the most part in terms of "mothering" versus being the boss, but it's the little sweet moments that tell you how much love there is there. The little kisses and, of course

Ashley: "Everything went great."
Magnus: *sighs* "I'll change your bandages when you get home, dear..."

I get sick of the parent/child interactions in most shows, too. That's one of the things that drew me to "Castle" (granted, I only saw two eps, but I am eagerly awaiting more). Castle not only has a great, loving, respectful relationship with his teenaged daughter, he's got a great, loving, respectful relationship with his mother. too. You don't see enough of that out there. In the real world, people don't treat their own families half as bad as they do on TV, nor do they let their families get away with half as much shit.

Ashley's fun. Magnus is intruiging. I know which one I like more, but everyone's different.

Magnus/Will is completely untenable in the here and now. Period. Maybe in season 2 if things play out right but, for the time being, there's too much of a disparity in life-experience and knowledge/power for a relationship to be anything but exploitative (and very little turns me off to a ship faster than exploitation which is why i wanted to scream every time I saw Angel with 16 year old Buffy). But, given how steep Will's Learning Curve is, he'll become her equal in very short order and, at that point, given the mutual love and respect already present, there's little to keep a romantic relationship from occuring.

But Will's got to grow first and Magnus needs to let her heart thaw a little more. Will starts her thawing in the first place; before him, it was only Henry and Ashley and her memories of Druitt. Being loved by someone new is good for her, reminds her a bit of what it means to be a member of the human race again. To me, knowing you're loved lets you love yourself and loving yourself lets you love others. (I use love in a completely non-romantic sense here, even though I acknowledge that platonic/familial love can morph into something else entirely as time paasses.) No matter how you feel about them as a couple, their interactions are always very satisfying to watch.

In my fics, I tend to assume that Will's got a mile hero-worshipping/Oedipal thing towards Magnus and that Magnus loves him dearly as a friend and a student and that more is possible but hardly necessary to the relationship, which I think is a very nice change from shows and movies that assume you must be in a romantic relationship to be complete as a human being. That shit drives me nuts and I see Will/Magnus as a gorgeous alternative to that because, sure the possibility's there, but it's not foregone or even necessarily likely -- it would just be icing on what's already a great relationship.

She's generally maternal(ish) to Will (i tend to think of her more as "nurturing" than "maternal", but that's just me) and he's generally deferential towards her, but there are hints of more at times. It's never serious, but it's not lost on either that the other is gorgeous, so you get the occassional look. Or Will teasing Magnus when she mentions a painter from the 1400s

Will: "Highschool sweetheart of yours?"
Magnus: "There is such a thing as before my time."
Will: "Really?" http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?pid=15381&fullsize=1
Magnus: *smirks* "Cheeky monkey." http://sanctuary-caps.com/displayimage.php?pid=15382&fullsize=1

And all bets are off in ep 9 so we won't even go there. But, for the most part, it's like neither of them even registers the gender of the other 99% of the time and it's been my experience that relationships that start in that fashion do FAR better when they morph into romances than romances that start with mutual attraction do.

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[kat-rowe.livejournal.com]

But, you know, over all, possible and would be good for both, but hardly necessary to what they've found in each other. I just happen to love that in a "ship". My writing of them to date has been 99% platonic (the other 1% featured undercurrents or canon mind-altering events) but I can go either way given sufficient justication :)

LOVE the Marguerite!vid. Haven't had a chance to see much of the series yet (although my gf is pirating it for me, bless her) but it seems perfectly in keeping with Marguerite from what little I've seen. I especially love in your vid "kiss, kiss, kiss, knock you out with a bottle of booze!" ... kind of thing i'd do

perfect song for Magnus as well. I just added it to the list of Sanctuary song!vids I want to attempt when the Sanctuary DVDs come out (other songs i want to tackle is "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" as an Ashley combat montage, "New Mother Nature" for Magnus, and "Hotel California" for poor Will in the first three eps. i have others, but those are the main one's i'd like ot try :)

*nods* Any show that tackles politics is taking a difficult tack. It's more likely than not to flop by preaching at the audience instead of drawing the audience into its world and telling them a story. 4400 did okay (considerably less heavy-handed than, say, the X-Men movies: "did you ever try just not being a mutant?" -- honestly...) Sanctuary largely avoids needing to go there since it's a Shadow World although i did entertain the notion of "Joe's old friend Helen briefs Barack on a few things he should be aware of" but i lost the first draft when my computer caught a virus and just never had the drive to recreate it. okay idea (stolen directly from Stargate) but hardly original or compelling enough to revisit

The Cabal's huge, and they're global, and the Sanctuary is at a disadvantage in a lot of ways. But they're also passionate and they believe in what they do and there's not an abnormal on the planet who doesn't have a vested interest in bringing them down, so to me it balances out. A conflict between the Sanctuary and the Cabal is, by necessity, going to be a Shadow War and, generally speaking, guerillas are more than capable of holding their own against vastly superior resources. My biological father was a military historian, so I know that force of numbers and resources alone are seldom adequate to win any war. The Sanctuary is the underdog, but they're an underdog who's more than capable of holding its own in a protracted conflict

"The ends justify the means" is a tricky proposition. I happen to believe it myself (something that not many of my friends know about me, for the record) but a lot of people find it a reprehensible proposition and, at the end of the day, I can see where those people are coming from. The Nazis believed they were doing the right thing, too, and that they should pursue thier goals by any means necessary. My own father nearly fell victim to their eugenics policy. Because they believed that it was important to improve the human race at any cost. The Cabal really is in its own way, dedicated to the preservation of humanity, like the Nazis were. And that means being willing to do things you accept as distasteful to achieve those ends.

Maybe I'm closer to the issue than most and so i'm seeing things that aren't there. But, if the Cabal believes it's doing the right thing and that it's acceptable to use any means necessary to achieve that and the Sanctuary believes that it's doing the right thing and that it's acceptable to use any means necessary to achieve that, then they aren't that different at all. The road to hell, after all, is paved with good intentions *shrug*

And I just really hope they have the balls to play up that angle even more strongly in season 2 :)

and i'll stop hitting you with teasers *hug*

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[kat-rowe.livejournal.com]

Makes it a great fandom to write fic for :)

You think it's disturbing to watch Magnus like that in a screen-cap, just WAIT to see it in real-time. It was the middle of winter and I had to open a window. Which was distressing because I'm not remotely into bondage or mind-games in a sexual context. But DAMN!!! it's entirely possible that, right after that ep aired, i hit "submit" before I really stopped to THINK about it and posted "Amanda Tapping can tie me to a chair and threaten me with death ANY old day" (okay, so it's not "possible" because it actually happened but i'm fairly sure she doesn't frequent that board since I haven't gotten a Cease and Desist yet, lol. still *flails as well* seriously, i've seen that ep maybe 20 times because i love the dynamics so much (total emotional roller-coaster for the two of them) and that scene is still disturbingly hot

Yeah, Henry's funny. About Druitt "Well, I mean he's all hearts and flowers one day and the next day he's turning a working girl into a canoe!"

Magnus: "Henry, level two lockdown."
Henry: "Threat-level 'holy crap. Check."

And him and Ashley was just so priceless. Both that she would GO there in the first place (what 23 year old female ever admitted to a guy she wasn't related to OR dating that she needed feminine products, even as a cover-story?) and that he knew her well enough to immediately go "ah, she's got a bead on some new illegal weapons. sweet..." It's highly dysfunctional, but I find it rather sweet as well. Granted, I ship the two relentlessly in spite of the fact that ep 8 had a lot of people looking at that 'ship and getting seriously squidged. Sorry, if eps 1 and (ESPECIALLY) ep 4 hadn't been enough to cement it, ep 7 would have done it for me and ep 12 just kind of reinforces that.. Plus, living together for so long, you just KNOW Ashley's needed someone to practice her mad combat-skills who she's not going to accidentally kill and Henry kind of fills that bill. Plus he follows her around like a puppy and there doesn't seem to be much he WOULDN'T do for her (quite aside from him ignoring her going out to buy guns that her mom specifically asked her NOT to).

You can find the first 3 eps here if you need them, but after that, it doesn't have any eps until #9 (which is the excellent ep with the cooed come-on/death-threat. but, while it's very hot to watch, it doesn't make much sense to those of my friends who only got to see the first few eps and then tried to watch it. they were all like "Holy shit! What happened to Magnus?") So, even if you watch the later ones, i wouldn't recommend #9 until you've seen the rest of the first half of the season http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=SamanthaorHelen&view=videos&start=20

scifi.com/sanctuary usually has several eps up but they seem to cycle through them and right now they're only showing the last 5 of the season. i haven't managed to find the other eps anywhere online although they are scheduled to be released on DVD in October *sighs at the wait*

My parents were kind of funny in their overall style of raising us. In contrast to the lack of sex ed in our house and the "today you're a woman" speech my father laid on me consisting solely of "we need to talk about plumbing. if you flush any of that girly crap down the toilet and it clogs, i'll skin you alive." ... my drug talk consisted of "this is the list of drugs we will throw you in rehab for even CONSIDERING. these are the drugs you're allowed to use with our knowledge, but only when you get them from people we know and trust. " ... schizo much? *shrug* They had a point, though. Most of the drugs on the restricted list were bad shit

[luisa-f.livejournal.com]

You like the opposites attract kind of ships (and the verbal matches that go with them), going by Jane/Lisbon, Adama/Roslin, Sheppard/Weir I'd say you also like when the woman is the boss, and most women in those pairings (with few exceptions) are brunettes (though I'd say that's just a coincidence).

I hadn't noticed the puppy, do you think Lisbon has a dog? Or maybe it's a childhood memory.

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

Ooh, good observations- especially about the female boss, because yes, authority kink, lol. I think I like the love/hate thing just a little too much- with Adama/Roslin as the most extreme example, lol.

And hey, I never noticed, but yes, most of them are brunettes! How did I miss that? Huh.

See, with her job, I wouldn't have thought she'd get a dog. It- really doesn't fit with my perspective of her. She works long hours and they're always traveling, so either she spends a fortune paying people to look after it [him/her?] or she has a really good relationship with her neighbors and they dog-sit or...the writers decided to throw in a random frame to personalize her desk without thinking too much about it, lol.

But maybe it's a sublimated subconscious desire to have children, which she can't because she's not in a relationship/because of her career/etc, and so she lavishes affection on her pet instead? I get fics where Lisbon spoils her nieces/nephews rotten, but the dog thing startled me.

I don't think it's a childhood memory. I don't know if she's that sentimental that she'd hold onto a picture for that long and frame it for her desk, it'd be way too random- but that's just me.

[luxuria-oceanus.livejournal.com]

*hugs you* Yesh, I approve, Natalie Portman = Awesome. In nearly everything she's been (that I've seen, actually, pretty much all I've seen of her) has been amazing. She's good!

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

ITA! :D So talented, though I'm ashamed to say I haven't seen all or even most of her work, but what I have is just brilliant.

Oh, oh, did you see the Magorium movie? Because I loved it, even if there wasn't enough romance in it for me [I'm all about romance, lol] and the magic and the humor and everything was just WHEEEE. *bounces* But maybe my Natalie!fangirl!blinkers were on and it really was crap and I didn't notice. Lol. That happens.

Also? Icon love! Ah, Jack the Ripper Walter! Haven't seen Fringe in ages but it's the one show I watch for the dude, and an old batty guy at that, rather than the chick/ship.

[luxuria-oceanus.livejournal.com]

XD Well, she really won my heart in "Leon: The Professional", and she was just starting there! "Where the Heart Is" is a must-watch. "Anywhere But Here" is good. "Closer" too (though the drama is kind of loooong) and, even though her appearance in "Cold Mountain" isn't big, it's still very impacting. "V for Vendetta" obviously good. "The Other Boleyn Girl" is LOVE. And, of course, Star Wars---though I'm not a HUGE fan of the fandom, I do admit it was good, and she was good in it :-)

Those are about all the movies I've watched with her in it, so no, haven't seen the Magorium one :-(

XD I LOVE WALTER! I used to watch the show because of HIM and ONLY him. I kind of got annoyed at the fact that they were clearly trying to pair up the guy and the girl, then wham, made the girl's sister be attracted to the guy, which leads the way to both awkward and angsty situations, and for once, FOR ONCE, I'd like a show where the ANGST didn't STRADDLE the pairings from the get-go!

ACK!

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the recs- I have a certain narrow list of criteria for movies that I will watch, but for Natalie, I'll make an exception. I haven't seen any of the ones you mentioned other than V for Vendetta which made me cry. It's an easy feat, actually, so maybe it's not that impressive but whatever, I was wibbling like a baby.

I think it's telling that Magorium's one of the few of her movies I've seen- the promos promised me magic and enchantment and possible!blink-and-you'll-miss-it!ship and happy endings...I like those.

I was all set to watch Boleyn Girl til I realized she gets killed off rather spectacularly. *sighs* I wish theyd swapped Natalie and 'ScarJo's roles, I'm not too fond of the latter, I'm okay with her dying. >:D

WALTER IS He's the only thing keeping me interested in the show!
Although I haven't seen the bit where the sister's all awkward!UST'ing with Peter. Ugh. Does he like her back or is it unrequited?
I don't ship Olivia and Peter but I don't mind if the writers make them all hung up on each other, but it's just NOT COOL to insert random love interests like that. GRR. It's the lamest plot device ever- the 'okay, we can't let our leads admit their love for each other yet, let's screw it up by throwing in another interested party!' Especially when it's the sister. *seethes*

FOR ONCE, I'd like a show where the ANGST didn't STRADDLE the pairings from the get-go!

*bats eyelashes* Might I recommend TLW? :P I can assure you there is none of that ship-interfering rubbish with M/R. It's the best thing ever, you can see the writers put a lot of thought into the whole intricate relationship dance rather than coming up with lame arbitrary reasons to cool things off between the characters. They don't get together right away for reasons stemming from their personalities/past, it's such an organic process, working through their problems and dealing with their demons in order to become closer to one another.

/sales pitch. I can't help myself. *sheepish grin*

[luxuria-oceanus.livejournal.com]

Oh, you are NOT alone! I cry during COMMERCIALS! The one with the Sarah McLachlan song and the animal shelters? Yup, makes me cry. And the one where the woman's hubby sneaks out of bed to get a diamond bracelet and puts it over her arm as she sleeps, and when she wakes up, he pretends to be asleep, and she realizes the gift he's put over her wrist and leans over to him and he just smiles, with his eyes closed *lip wibbles* gets me EVERY FREAKING TIME. So, if I'm like that on commercials, trust me, I am worse during movies.

Oh, you should STILL see Boleyn Girl. Scarlett might be the one who lives, but I promise you, Natalie is the one who leaves an impression. She's the one I wanted to keep watching. She's the one who's acting was just, so in-character, being more than who she is, as an actress.

Well, I stopped watching Fringe (college... stupid... missed the last episodes of Castle too *sobs*) But I could see it being hinted at it, especially when I caught a sneak where Peter actually called Olivia's house to talk to his SISTER. I mean, how can you hint at a pairing, make fans envision them and hope, then throw something like a sister with a KID into the mix? Bastards!

LOL Oh, gee. Sweetie, while I'm sure TLW is all kinds of superb, I'd rather avoid another fandom addiction; however, if the opportunity ever arises, don't think I'll turn away, not with the recommendations I've been getting :-P

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

*luffs* I don't feel so foolish about my overly sentimental nature now! And hey, that diamond bracelet ad sounds awesome! Can I marry that guy? :D

trust me, I am worse during movies
It's not so bad when I'm at home or at a friend's place but it's awful when I'm actually at the movies and then I get embarrassed at what the people around me are thinking! Star Trek had me crying in the first ten minutes, lol. CAMERON giving birth to JAMES KIRK...the trippiness of that scene wasn't enough to distract me from a weepie fit.

There's this ad about work safety, set to Dido's 'Here With Me', and it shows these families waiting for their loved ones to come home, and the focus is on this wife who's pacing and worrying, the kid's outside with a ball, waiting for his father to come and play with him, and there's news about an accident and everyone's worried and panicking...we see other people returning to their families safe and sound while this kid's still waiting anxiously...then his father turns up and everything's okay and they're laughing and hugging and kicking the ball around and AWW!

Voice over: ‘the most important reason for making your workplace safe...is not at work at all.

*sniffles* I think it's the music that gets me, it's a very powerful song and coupled with the emotion in that ad, yeah.

Fringe-EPIC FAIL. Can someone just cut all of Walter's scenes and upload them together so I don't have to watch this tortuous love triangle? I hate when writers clearly intend two characters to be together and then SABOTAGE THEM. *shakes fist*

Has Fringe been renewed? I'm interested in this other show, Eleventh Hour [I heard Torri pops up in an ep], similar kind of premise, they go investigating unusual phenomena- the guy's the quirky scientist, the chick's his bodyguard, there is fun banter and weird happenings...but it got canceled. *sighs* I'd've rathered that got another season than frakking Fringe.

Avoiding fandom addiction? O.o Y'know, that's what odakota_rose said to me when I brought up TLW... she had this funny idea that it wasn't healthy to engage in yet another fandom... PFFT. Lol.

But please, don't feel like I'm pressuring you- I feel obligated to pimp my show to anyone and everyone I can, but now that I've said my piece, don't worry, I won't badger you endlessly. ;D

[luxuria-oceanus.livejournal.com]

Oh, hon, I cry at the beginning of Star Trek every time (and cried at the theaters too). I mean, the first time there was actual lip wibbling, long stream of tears. Now there's more lip wibbling, the desire to throw something, and just a few tears, but still, the emotion is there!

Dude. Just reading that commercial description got me feeling emotional *slaps self* OI!

*facepalm* I just realized I wrote "His sister" instead of "Her sister" *slaps self* In my defense, I think I was half-asleep.

I think Fringe HAS been renewed, can't remember. Hmm, Eleventh Hour... Sounds interesting, but I'm afraid I never heard about it till now.

LOL Yeah, that sounds about right. Often, we fangirls say, "NO! NO NEW FANDOMS!" Then wham, "Oh, look at the pretty! Well... just for a little bit... *three months later* LOVE LIVE THE FANDOM!" Uh-hu.

We're so easy.

*snorts* Don't worry, it takes a lot for me to be badgered XD Or even to feel badgered o.O

[torrealis.livejournal.com]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!

It's Torri.. SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Damn, every time I see this AMAZING, GORGEOUS & WONDERFUL woman, I fall in love all over again! ((It's almost sick..HEY, I SAID ALMOST.., LOL)) and OMG, it's XENA AND GAB! ♥♥♥ I am going crazy here, it's not good for my health, you know! HAHAHAAAA *ROFL* that vid. is so funny! =D thanks for sharing!

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

Dude, I KNOW, I FEEL IT, TOO! I watched a bit of Coup D'Etat and Critical Mass for these caps and just seeing her again, hearing her voice, seeing her at her desk and being all Queen of Atlantis... *heart!splodes* SO MUCH LOVE!

And I almost fell out of my chair when I found that pic of Torri with her pic of Sedge, SO ADORABLE, OMG! *flailyflails*

I blame my reacquired Xena love on YOU. I have exams and instead of studying, I'm watching the show, capping for all I'm worth so I can do the Caesar picspam (http://borg-princess.livejournal.com/65342.html#cutid2) and the Xena and Gab picspam (http://borg-princess.livejournal.com/65589.html#cutid1). AND I'm on youtube, lmao at all the vids...I'm having so much fun rediscovering this show! *twirls*

[odakota-rose.livejournal.com]

A. Snow White with Ninjas is pretty much the best idea ever.
B. LIZZIE! ♥
C. TORRI! ♥ Adorable, lol.

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

I love the concept! And while I'm disappointed Natalie's refused, it's unfair of me to assume the quality's gonna diminish as a result. But then again, even if it does, I love a number of cheesy movies with little to no redeeming value whatsoever, so there's hope!

Torri is uber-pretty and gorgeous and wonderful and OMG, FANGIRLS SO HARD! :D It's been ages since I watched SGA and it's a shock how overwhelming her presence is after so long! I'd been reading Weir all this time but seeing and hearing her was kind of a sensory overload, lol.

[laurandbillever.livejournal.com]

ahhhhh- I adore thast song of Katy's and Xena is something I want to watch from a very long time... so those two are half-straigh half-gay? cool!!!!!!

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

You know, I found Katy a little irritating at first- like, I'd sing 'I kissed a girl' and then I'd whack myself over the head, 'WHY ARE YOU SINGING THIS? SHE'S SO ANNOYING!' but then I heard Hot 'n Cold and laughed myself silly over the music video [have you seen it? So funny!] and now I admit to loving her without any shame.

Lol, Xena...it's very ambiguous. Both she and Gabrielle have relationships with men, but they have a very strong bond between them and sometimes it seems to be of a romantic nature...it's up to the viewer's interpretation but I've heard in the later seasons [I haven't seen 5 and 6] that it's less subtext and more OVERT-text. Doesn't really bother me, I just adore the idea of two women having such a strong relationship and affection for each other, it's something we rarely see on tv, it's always about MEN, like Adama and Tigh [name me one strong female friendship on BSG?], House and WIlson, etc. etc.

[kat-rowe.livejournal.com]

hey! don't knock House/Wilson. Those boys take dysfunction and render it into High Art ;p

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

I'm not knocking 'em, I love those guys! But there are distressingly few shows that focus on the friendship between two women, whereas there are all these shows that highlight those dynamics between MEN. It's unfair. *pouts*

[kat-rowe.livejournal.com]

that's just because platonic gorl-on-girl is not remotely complicated and therefore not hugely dramatic *hug* guys are so much more effed up and therefore make better viewing. you'll like Magnus/Ashley, methinks

Magnus: "How'd it go?"
Ashley: "Peachy."
Magnus: *sighs and gives a tolerant grin* "I'll change your bandages when you get home, dear. I love you."
Ashley: "Love you, Mom."

SO sweet ... also, i've done enough girl/girl huggly that it's less interesting to me personally than platonic guy/girl

[laurandbillever.livejournal.com]

I also didn't pay much attention to Katy in the beginning but it was exactly Hot 'n Cold that made me like her ^_^ Yes, the vid is just hilarious and I like her style- busy, bright, full of life... she may not be a philosopher, but she is a good choice for a good party and some fun in the bus with your iPod ^_^

Ah, ambiguous... this is what I like... You are so right- no female friendship... I am a bit disappointed in Ron Moore- he claims to be all about serious and problematic issues (human rights, democracy and so on ) but he kind of fell into the trivial pattern with the women on the show... after all, he is just a man, no matter how deep he thinks.

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

What really upset me about BSG was the way they treated Ellen. They did this amazing thing to her character, turning her from an irritating tramp to the brilliant woman who was involved in creating cylons and resurrection technology and she's this enormous influential figure but her role in the end? A catfight with Six over Tigh's love. It...it's so painful I can't even feel it anymore, I'm NUMB, I tell you. Biggest WTF ever.

I was hoping for some Laura/Kara friendship but the only moment we got was Kara holding her up when she volunteered to go on that mission, can't remember the ep, but I loved that moment, seeing her support Laura and it was like they were close, even though we never got to see it happen. *sighs*

[laurandbillever.livejournal.com]

oh, Ellen... yes- she was kind of going to her old self in that catfight... but I was so disappointed that Bill and Laura couldn't have some happiness while Ellen and Saul were together that I never paid much attention. But when I go back...yeah, as the creator of the ressurection system, she should have had a bigger role... but at least she is alive- this is much more than the people like Bill, who sacrificed the most, got in the end...

Ah, yes that moment was good, but as someone said- the writers remember the connections between people only at the end of things... there should have been such scenes during the whole show, not only when someone is dying or going to a battle...

[sunny-serenity.livejournal.com]

*sigh* Jane/Lisbon are the replacement therapy for big black hole Sparky left in my wee shipper heart.

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

That's totally how I see them! The eye!sex, the flirtiness...except this time, it's TPTB-sanctioned, we get physical contact, it's in every episode...I really love Mentalist's take on the female boss- Lisbon's not locked away in her ivory tower and separate from the team, and she gets scenes where you can see the writers are clearly shipping her with Jane, it's not just us fighting an uphill battle on our own, you know? So thrilling!

[sunny-serenity.livejournal.com]

Indeed. No ivory tower for Agent Lisbon. I also totally dig the kiddies calling her 'boss'. And YES! physical contact!!! The eye-sexing and lack-of-personal-space made up for that in Sparky but dude, can you imagine the askdf!@#$%&*!brain!s'plosions! that would've taken place in the fandom if Shep & Weir had been allowed to touch?!?!?!? I kinda fucking hate JM even more now... Bastard. So YAY!Mentalist PTBs! Please don't fuck it up. Kthnxbai!

[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

Hee, love the icon! And talking about lack of personal space...


They've studied at the Shipper School of Sparky, lol.

[I used to have this icon- 'man of action, woman of words' for Sparky; if you turn it around, that'd be Jane and Lisbon!]

Seriously, I just love it that she's the 'boss', by title as well as by the others' regard for her. Too many shows have the 'token female boss' who nobody really respects or listens to, and it's great that her team is in awe of her and really kinda worship her.

I LOVE the birthday scene- again showing how our show PWNS ALL OTHERS. How many times have we seen the set-up for a personal scene get interrupted by work before they really get to celebrate? But they're at work and no interruptions til she's done opening her gifts. It's so adorable seeing how much they care about her and how giddy and happy she is!

Lol, considering the squee!explosions just from them breathing the same air, I'm thinking fandom would've collapsed from excitement if there'd been this kind of physical contact happening with Sparky. It's funny, I was watching Aurora and Elizabeth was so careful when passing the glass to Shep, their fingers never touched. Contrast that with Jane grabbing Lisbon's walkie-talkie-thing and keeping hold of her hand while giving orders to her team!

So YAY!Mentalist PTBs! Please don't fuck it up. Kthnxbai!
Oh, god, it'd suck if TPTB were all willing to endorse our ship and then Lisbon's not around anymore, the unfairness of it all... *whimpers*

[sunny-serenity.livejournal.com]

Well, now I think that may score them their A levels in the Shipper School of Sparky. Well DONE ship. Well done. *applauds*

Indeed, the team really does love and respect her. I can also see how Van Pelt really really kinda wants to be like her. Oh, Van Pelt *pets* And Rigs & Cho would beat the everlovin' shit outta anyone that messed with her as if they were her younger brothers or something... Oh, TEAM! Dude, I think I need to marathon this show... Cos OMG!YES! The BIRTHDAY SCENE! They are the valedictorians of Shipper School of Sparky.

I did notice that in Aurora, although I kinda wrote it off cos Caldwell was in the room. Must. Not. Reveal. Breaking of P-R-O-T-O-C-O-L. I think that's why the AMTDI-kiss was so flail worthy and then, and THEN Echoes. HE CARRIES HER TO THE INFIRMARY. 0_0 *flail* *dies ded*